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Re: Explaining Hampson

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They are not trading 2 top 20 prospects for this season. They would have to be too high of prospects to get a good pitcher, and they are not trading top 20s for a questionable pitcher. Highly Possible they will ride what they have and foolishly trade away nothing possibly of the expiring contracts, which a few that had chance have devalued. Miring themselves in mediocrity.
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:06 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:03 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:57 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:51 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:42 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:37 am I, and maybe only I, agree. Hampson is not a reset-minded move. It is as you, and only you, describe...a strong indicator of Mo's intent to give it one more run.

He couldn't mortgage the future, because it's not his to mortgage, so he stood pat in the offseason not really knowing what he had. But he still owns the present and sees an opportunity to not go out a loser, in both his and the fan's eyes.
Smart man!
I would add that all winter, as fans and pundits clamored to see Helsley and Fedde traded, I analyzed that he would keep both in July if STL was within 5 games.
It was clearly his plan all along.
And it was a prudent plan considering all the fleecing in recent years. He took the Hippocratic approach this time and decided to first do no harm.
What fleecing happened recently? :roll:
Recent "years". Most of his trades, other than Holliday resulted in a lot of net loss. He publicly stated regret for losing Alcantara, Gallen, and others. Even Goldschmidt and Arenado trades didn't result in the window he hoped for. He's not as terrible as many claim, but not great [insert rolly eyes to seemingly prove point].
LMAO. Goldy and Nado were steals.

His last couple of years of deals have been good. :roll:

Actual eyeroll :lol:
They forced their GMs hand to give them away and they landed in Mo's lap. Besides, I thought you hated Nado? Now he's a steal? ...habitual goal post mover to fit argument. [insert confused face, because real men debate with emojis]
I'm not a fan of Nado but to claim the GMs gave them away but no other team landed both, actually proves that Mo did exceptionally well and I thank you for proving my point.

You set the goalposts and I got items well within your bull[shirt] construct and you solidified my counter.

Thanks!

How bout his trade deadlines deals too :lol:
You mean those deals that brought us a championship during his tenure? Great point. We've hijacked this thread enough. [insert giving up face].
Your passion for defending a guy who most are glad is leaving is, as only you would say..."BAZAR" [sic]
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:21 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:06 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:03 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:57 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:51 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:42 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:37 am I, and maybe only I, agree. Hampson is not a reset-minded move. It is as you, and only you, describe...a strong indicator of Mo's intent to give it one more run.

He couldn't mortgage the future, because it's not his to mortgage, so he stood pat in the offseason not really knowing what he had. But he still owns the present and sees an opportunity to not go out a loser, in both his and the fan's eyes.
Smart man!
I would add that all winter, as fans and pundits clamored to see Helsley and Fedde traded, I analyzed that he would keep both in July if STL was within 5 games.
It was clearly his plan all along.
And it was a prudent plan considering all the fleecing in recent years. He took the Hippocratic approach this time and decided to first do no harm.
What fleecing happened recently? :roll:
Recent "years". Most of his trades, other than Holliday resulted in a lot of net loss. He publicly stated regret for losing Alcantara, Gallen, and others. Even Goldschmidt and Arenado trades didn't result in the window he hoped for. He's not as terrible as many claim, but not great [insert rolly eyes to seemingly prove point].
LMAO. Goldy and Nado were steals.

His last couple of years of deals have been good. :roll:

Actual eyeroll :lol:
They forced their GMs hand to give them away and they landed in Mo's lap. Besides, I thought you hated Nado? Now he's a steal? ...habitual goal post mover to fit argument. [insert confused face, because real men debate with emojis]
I'm not a fan of Nado but to claim the GMs gave them away but no other team landed both, actually proves that Mo did exceptionally well and I thank you for proving my point.

You set the goalposts and I got items well within your bull[shirt] construct and you solidified my counter.

Thanks!

How bout his trade deadlines deals too :lol:
You mean those deals that brought us a championship during his tenure? Great point. We've hijacked this thread enough. [insert giving up face].
Your passion for defending a guy who most are glad is leaving is, as only you would say..."BAZAR" [sic]
How many championships for the Yankees? LMAO. Or the Dogturds? Padres?

And Bazar is a CT joke towards a certain poster who is, honestly, dumber than you. So you have that going for you.

What players did those trades bring lately?
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:25 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:21 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:06 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:03 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:57 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:51 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:42 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:37 am I, and maybe only I, agree. Hampson is not a reset-minded move. It is as you, and only you, describe...a strong indicator of Mo's intent to give it one more run.

He couldn't mortgage the future, because it's not his to mortgage, so he stood pat in the offseason not really knowing what he had. But he still owns the present and sees an opportunity to not go out a loser, in both his and the fan's eyes.
Smart man!
I would add that all winter, as fans and pundits clamored to see Helsley and Fedde traded, I analyzed that he would keep both in July if STL was within 5 games.
It was clearly his plan all along.
And it was a prudent plan considering all the fleecing in recent years. He took the Hippocratic approach this time and decided to first do no harm.
What fleecing happened recently? :roll:
Recent "years". Most of his trades, other than Holliday resulted in a lot of net loss. He publicly stated regret for losing Alcantara, Gallen, and others. Even Goldschmidt and Arenado trades didn't result in the window he hoped for. He's not as terrible as many claim, but not great [insert rolly eyes to seemingly prove point].
LMAO. Goldy and Nado were steals.

His last couple of years of deals have been good. :roll:

Actual eyeroll :lol:
They forced their GMs hand to give them away and they landed in Mo's lap. Besides, I thought you hated Nado? Now he's a steal? ...habitual goal post mover to fit argument. [insert confused face, because real men debate with emojis]
I'm not a fan of Nado but to claim the GMs gave them away but no other team landed both, actually proves that Mo did exceptionally well and I thank you for proving my point.

You set the goalposts and I got items well within your bull[shirt] construct and you solidified my counter.

Thanks!

How bout his trade deadlines deals too :lol:
You mean those deals that brought us a championship during his tenure? Great point. We've hijacked this thread enough. [insert giving up face].
Your passion for defending a guy who most are glad is leaving is, as only you would say..."BAZAR" [sic]
How many championships for the Yankees? LMAO. Or the Dogturds? Padres?

And Bazar is a CT joke towards a certain poster who is, honestly, dumber than you. So you have that going for you.

What players did those trades bring lately?
WTH do those other teams have to do with this? Man, you really love you some Mo. I didn't know, sorry to offend. Mo is awesome.
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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Clubmaker2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:10 pm They are not trading 2 top 20 prospects for this season. They would have to be too high of prospects to get a good pitcher, and they are not trading top 20s for a questionable pitcher. Highly Possible they will ride what they have and foolishly trade away nothing possibly of the expiring contracts, which a few that had chance have devalued. Miring themselves in mediocrity.
Are you sure? Its dumb[ash] Mo we are talking about. I wouldn't put it past him to trade Winn or Donovan for Kyle Gibson or Nestor Cortes.
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:31 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:25 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:21 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:06 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:03 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:57 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:51 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:42 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:37 am I, and maybe only I, agree. Hampson is not a reset-minded move. It is as you, and only you, describe...a strong indicator of Mo's intent to give it one more run.

He couldn't mortgage the future, because it's not his to mortgage, so he stood pat in the offseason not really knowing what he had. But he still owns the present and sees an opportunity to not go out a loser, in both his and the fan's eyes.
Smart man!
I would add that all winter, as fans and pundits clamored to see Helsley and Fedde traded, I analyzed that he would keep both in July if STL was within 5 games.
It was clearly his plan all along.
And it was a prudent plan considering all the fleecing in recent years. He took the Hippocratic approach this time and decided to first do no harm.
What fleecing happened recently? :roll:
Recent "years". Most of his trades, other than Holliday resulted in a lot of net loss. He publicly stated regret for losing Alcantara, Gallen, and others. Even Goldschmidt and Arenado trades didn't result in the window he hoped for. He's not as terrible as many claim, but not great [insert rolly eyes to seemingly prove point].
LMAO. Goldy and Nado were steals.

His last couple of years of deals have been good. :roll:

Actual eyeroll :lol:
They forced their GMs hand to give them away and they landed in Mo's lap. Besides, I thought you hated Nado? Now he's a steal? ...habitual goal post mover to fit argument. [insert confused face, because real men debate with emojis]
I'm not a fan of Nado but to claim the GMs gave them away but no other team landed both, actually proves that Mo did exceptionally well and I thank you for proving my point.

You set the goalposts and I got items well within your bull[shirt] construct and you solidified my counter.

Thanks!

How bout his trade deadlines deals too :lol:
You mean those deals that brought us a championship during his tenure? Great point. We've hijacked this thread enough. [insert giving up face].
Your passion for defending a guy who most are glad is leaving is, as only you would say..."BAZAR" [sic]
How many championships for the Yankees? LMAO. Or the Dogturds? Padres?

And Bazar is a CT joke towards a certain poster who is, honestly, dumber than you. So you have that going for you.

What players did those trades bring lately?
WTH do those other teams have to do with this? Man, you really love you some Mo. I didn't know, sorry to offend. Mo is awesome.

So, because I can temper your hatred towards anything Mo, I'm a ftont office nuthuggers? :lol:

I've been called a hater and a lover of our front office.

I called you out on your claim that recent trades have been bad. They haven't and actually brought in some possible talent (one actually playing 2b today!) as well as fleecing the rest of the league to get Nado and Goldy.

I bring up other, high payroll, teams that haven't won [shirt] ...Padres, Mutts, Yankees. Because you said these moves haven't brought championships. What have these teams gotten?

Stay on the course you, yourself, paved :lol:
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
Ejgonz22 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:45 am Hampson is a RH Siani who can also play IF. He’s a fine 26th man.
Exactly. Lack of RH depth in the OF.
Place a call to Whit Merrifield?

Maybe he's had enough of the new baby he retired last year to spend time with? :lol:
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:38 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:31 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:25 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:21 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:06 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:03 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:57 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:51 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:42 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:43 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:37 am I, and maybe only I, agree. Hampson is not a reset-minded move. It is as you, and only you, describe...a strong indicator of Mo's intent to give it one more run.

He couldn't mortgage the future, because it's not his to mortgage, so he stood pat in the offseason not really knowing what he had. But he still owns the present and sees an opportunity to not go out a loser, in both his and the fan's eyes.
Smart man!
I would add that all winter, as fans and pundits clamored to see Helsley and Fedde traded, I analyzed that he would keep both in July if STL was within 5 games.
It was clearly his plan all along.
And it was a prudent plan considering all the fleecing in recent years. He took the Hippocratic approach this time and decided to first do no harm.
What fleecing happened recently? :roll:
Recent "years". Most of his trades, other than Holliday resulted in a lot of net loss. He publicly stated regret for losing Alcantara, Gallen, and others. Even Goldschmidt and Arenado trades didn't result in the window he hoped for. He's not as terrible as many claim, but not great [insert rolly eyes to seemingly prove point].
LMAO. Goldy and Nado were steals.

His last couple of years of deals have been good. :roll:

Actual eyeroll :lol:
They forced their GMs hand to give them away and they landed in Mo's lap. Besides, I thought you hated Nado? Now he's a steal? ...habitual goal post mover to fit argument. [insert confused face, because real men debate with emojis]
I'm not a fan of Nado but to claim the GMs gave them away but no other team landed both, actually proves that Mo did exceptionally well and I thank you for proving my point.

You set the goalposts and I got items well within your bull[shirt] construct and you solidified my counter.

Thanks!

How bout his trade deadlines deals too :lol:
You mean those deals that brought us a championship during his tenure? Great point. We've hijacked this thread enough. [insert giving up face].
Your passion for defending a guy who most are glad is leaving is, as only you would say..."BAZAR" [sic]
How many championships for the Yankees? LMAO. Or the Dogturds? Padres?

And Bazar is a CT joke towards a certain poster who is, honestly, dumber than you. So you have that going for you.

What players did those trades bring lately?
WTH do those other teams have to do with this? Man, you really love you some Mo. I didn't know, sorry to offend. Mo is awesome.

So, because I can temper your hatred towards anything Mo, I'm a ftont office nuthuggers? :lol:

I've been called a hater and a lover of our front office.

I called you out on your claim that recent trades have been bad. They haven't and actually brought in some possible talent (one actually playing 2b today!) as well as fleecing the rest of the league to get Nado and Goldy.

I bring up other, high payroll, teams that haven't won [shirt] ...Padres, Mutts, Yankees. Because you said these moves haven't brought championships. What have these teams gotten?

Stay on the course you, yourself, paved :lol:
...says the guy who derailed OP with Mo love. I never said anything about wanting higher payroll. I agreed with OP about his take on this year's strategy. But since you brought it up, the "dogturds" did win it all last year. Convenient you left them off your angry reply. I said I was sorry.
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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rockondlouie wrote: 29 Jun 2025 12:45 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:31 am
Ejgonz22 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:45 am Hampson is a RH Siani who can also play IF. He’s a fine 26th man.
Exactly. Lack of RH depth in the OF.
Place a call to Whit Merrifield?

Maybe he's had enough of the new baby he retired last year to spend time with? :lol:
:lol:
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Re: Explaining Hampson

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 29 Jun 2025 11:03 am
Cusecards wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:49 am Very very good OP!
Oh....and posting solid opinions WITHOUT the grandiose “self promotion” makes it that much better!
He tried, but the typo made it funny - "remember, I know No better than Mo knows Mo". He does know his Mo-psychology though.
Freudian Slip??
Sideshow needs new material. His “act” has gotten stale!
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Melville wrote: 29 Jun 2025 10:28 am Been some consternation with signing Hampson
And criticism when he is in the lineup.
This displays a lack of understanding as to why he was signed and why it is a positive indicator.
He is not much of a hitter, obviously.
But he is a talented defender who adds depth and helps protect the pitching staff.
He can play 7 positions - which can be important over the 162 grind.
And that last clause is the key to understanding
It is now clear that Mo intends to grind through the full schedule.
It means he has every of slipping into the playoffs one last time as he slips off-stage.
Hampson is the type of experienced, fundamentally sound player who contenders like to have at the end of the bench
And now having fully explained why signing him is, if nothing else, an insight into Mo's thinking (remember, I know No better than Mo knows Mo) - let's analyze related implications.
This is means Fedde and Helsley will remain with STL at the deadline.
Maton and Romero as well
It also means that Mois willing to consider trading one of his LH bats, which is the one area in which STL has an excess - with Nootbaar being a strong candidate
It also means Mo will be willing to move a couple of top 20 prospects as well - particularly if he can net a starting pitcher with at least another year of control
Obviously, Mikolas and Matz will also be shopped.
Perhaps Walker.
Bottom line: though alone he is an unimportant piece,signing Hampson shows STL intend to be in"buy mode" more so than sell mode.
just another Me-ville rant - aka gibberish!
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He's not a good 26th man at all. He's a good 56th man who has no business on an MLB roster. Since when is it okay to have a guy with a .459 OPS on this roster?
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icon wrote: 29 Jun 2025 13:20 pm He's not a good 26th man at all. He's a good 56th man who has no business on an MLB roster. Since when is it okay to have a guy with a .459 OPS on this roster?
correct, its all about getting someone to fill specific hole temporarily that they dont care if they have to put on waivers in a few weeks. Its about disposable guys.
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:lol: first RBI since 2025 :lol:
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I will say this- they have had worse players on their roster the last 10 years or so
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Clubmaker2 wrote: 29 Jun 2025 13:25 pm
icon wrote: 29 Jun 2025 13:20 pm He's not a good 26th man at all. He's a good 56th man who has no business on an MLB roster. Since when is it okay to have a guy with a .459 OPS on this roster?
correct, its all about getting someone to fill specific hole temporarily that they dont care if they have to put on waivers in a few weeks. Its about disposable guys.
Hope you're right. Well, he just did get a single off some dude named Festa, who allowed 4 straight hits to open the 6th yesterday before being removed.
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