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Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 23:17 pm
by Futuregm2
Baseball Savant wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 22:34 pm
He had no-hit stuff from the first pitch
And a pretty weak Cleveland lineup helped too
They are extremely weak without Ramirez. Almost White Sox level.
But it was also a tremendous start by Gray.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 00:24 am
by govman
kyace wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:58 pm
Really upped his trade value tonight
so a very good pitcher who wants to stay here and you want to get rid of him?? And you trust Mo not to muck it up if he tried to?
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 01:18 am
by Bushiro
gocards04 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:32 pm
Got to see it up and close in person here in Cleveland tonight. Sonny was absolutely phenomenal. A lot of the Cleveland fans around us gave him his props and the Cleveland postgame even shouted him out and gave him his due before the postgame fireworks show. It was a phenomenal performance
Did you like the stadium ?.....or have you been there many times...my buddy really liked it on his trip there...this one along with petco were a few of his favorites...
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 06:20 am
by sikeston bulldog2
89 pitches. Very well might be his best game ever. The other team threw nearly as many strikes as Gray thru pitches.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 07:35 am
by sikeston bulldog2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 06:20 am
89 pitches. Very well might be his best game ever. The other team threw nearly as many strikes as Gray thru pitches.
Yep. Gray threw 89 pitches, Cleveland threw 93 strikes.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 09:47 am
by gocards04
Bushiro wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 01:18 am
gocards04 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:32 pm
Got to see it up and close in person here in Cleveland tonight. Sonny was absolutely phenomenal. A lot of the Cleveland fans around us gave him his props and the Cleveland postgame even shouted him out and gave him his due before the postgame fireworks show. It was a phenomenal performance
Did you like the stadium ?.....or have you been there many times...my buddy really liked it on his trip there...this one along with petco were a few of his favorites...
This is our first time up here to watch the Cardinals play. It’s a nice stadium. It’s obviously been updated and you can tell the Guardians franchise has put a lot of money into it. It’s a nice ballpark. Solid 7/10. Some of the concourses are a little compact, so traffic can be a little congested, but it’s a nice ballpark. All the Cleveland fans we have talked to have been really good and respectful to us and very good baseball fans. We have enjoyed our time at the park so far. The city itself is a little underwhelming, but we are here for baseball
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 10:08 am
by AnExParrot
rbirules wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:17 pm
Probably the best game by a Cardinals pitcher at least as far back as when Shelby Miller gave up a lead off single to the Rockies then sent the next 27 batters down in order. I want to say that was in 2012 or 2013. I know Wacha and Miles each had near no hitters in that time frame as well.
I don't remember the year, but I do remember it was Mother's day. Also, it was the first time I heard about the "game score" stat for starting pitchers.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 10:21 am
by imetsatchelpaige
AnExParrot wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 10:08 am
rbirules wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:17 pm
Probably the best game by a Cardinals pitcher at least as far back as when Shelby Miller gave up a lead off single to the Rockies then sent the next 27 batters down in order. I want to say that was in 2012 or 2013. I know Wacha and Miles each had near no hitters in that time frame as well.
I don't remember the year, but I do remember it was Mother's day. Also, it was the first time I heard about the "game score" stat for starting pitchers.
2013.
I remember it well.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 11:30 am
by dugoutrex
that's our ace!
p.s. he ain't going nowhere!
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 11:47 am
by CorneliusWolfe
imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:16 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:59 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:32 pm
old school, Maddux, whatever you call it, he was impressive. Good to see how much he credited Pages. Gave him the game ball. Class guy.
That gesture speaks volumes about the type player Sonny Gray is . He knew that ball would mean more to Pages than if he kept it himself.
In the post game interview he said the base hit was the only time he shook Pages off all night. Might be an exaggeration but a nice gesture nonetheless.
Just saw that! (I often have to watch the archived games due to work) That would be pretty wild, if true. Either way, classy move that Pages will remember fondly. Good team chemistry it seems.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 11:51 am
by CorneliusWolfe
Colotiger wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:36 pm
There have been a lot of no-hitters that have not been pitched as well as Sonny’s game tonight.
Every no-hitter I've seen was not pitched as well. But I admit, I've only seen a couple.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 12:08 pm
by 45s
govman wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 00:24 am
kyace wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:58 pm
Really upped his trade value tonight
so a very good pitcher who wants to stay here and you want to get rid of him?? And you trust Mo not to muck it up if he tried to?
While your point about the front office is valid, trotting out a very good pitcher every five days, backed up by a mediocre lineup is not a strategy to ensure long term organizational success…
His NTC notwithstanding, they should at least shop him….
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 12:15 pm
by Honky Tonk Man
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 11:47 am
imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:16 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:59 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:32 pm
old school, Maddux, whatever you call it, he was impressive. Good to see how much he credited Pages. Gave him the game ball. Class guy.
That gesture speaks volumes about the type player Sonny Gray is . He knew that ball would mean more to Pages than if he kept it himself.
In the post game interview he said the base hit was the only time he shook Pages off all night. Might be an exaggeration but a nice gesture nonetheless.
Just saw that! (I often have to watch the archived games due to work) That would be pretty wild, if true. Either way, classy move that Pages will remember fondly. Good team chemistry it seems.
you do the fries right ?
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 12:22 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 12:15 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 11:47 am
imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 21:16 pm
ramfandan wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:59 pm
JohnTudor1985 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 20:32 pm
old school, Maddux, whatever you call it, he was impressive. Good to see how much he credited Pages. Gave him the game ball. Class guy.
That gesture speaks volumes about the type player Sonny Gray is . He knew that ball would mean more to Pages than if he kept it himself.
In the post game interview he said the base hit was the only time he shook Pages off all night. Might be an exaggeration but a nice gesture nonetheless.
Just saw that! (I often have to watch the archived games due to work) That would be pretty wild, if true. Either way, classy move that Pages will remember fondly. Good team chemistry it seems.
you do the fries right ?
I actually work for the department of defense, over 25 years. Protecting freedoms for goofs like you to say whatever you want. You're welcome.
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Sonny Gray is only the third pitcher in MLB history to throw a Maddux with over 10 strikeouts and less than two hits allowed.
Sandy Koufax (6/4/1964)
Chris Archer (8/20/2015)
Sonny Gray (today)
FANTASTIC OUTING BY SONNY GRAY
Re: sonny was dealing tonight
Posted: 28 Jun 2025 12:49 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
imetsatchelpaige wrote: ↑28 Jun 2025 12:46 pm
Sonny Gray is only the third pitcher in MLB history to throw a Maddux with over 10 strikeouts and less than two hits allowed.
Sandy Koufax (6/4/1964)
Chris Archer (8/20/2015)
Sonny Gray (today)
FANTASTIC OUTING BY SONNY GRAY
That outing is what fans dreamed of when he was signed. Love seeing the older vets showing the young guys how it’s done. We need the balance of both.