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Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 10:35 am
by craviduce
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
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As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
I haven't seen Koperniak in the MLB lineup. Have you?
I like the kid alot, great story...UDFA. He's having a terrible 1st half in AAA. Getting a bit old, too. Time is running out on him. He could still have a decent 2nd half.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 10:45 am
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:33 am
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:29 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:20 am
He got hits in his first two games back and faced some pretty elite pitching the last two.
Maybe give him a few more at-bats before judging one individual on a team that combined for 0 runs and 5 hits total in 2 days.
You’re asking an awful lot of Shady.
Shady saw Burleson's rise to being a fine MLB hitting coming. Did you ? Probably not. There were a lot of CT doubters regarding Burleson.
[fork] off Shady poster and Shady responder, backing Shady poster

Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 10:55 am
by Shady
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
------------
As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
The guru would prefer Koperniak over Burleson, no doubt. Guru is one smart cookie about players in the organization.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 11:00 am
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:55 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
------------
As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
The guru would prefer Koperniak over Burleson, no doubt. Guru is one smart cookie about players in the organization.
Shady says [fork] off Shady
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 11:09 am
by CorneliusWolfe
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 11:00 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:55 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
------------
As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
The guru would prefer Koperniak over Burleson, no doubt. Guru is one smart cookie about players in the organization.
Shady says [fork] off Shady
But what about the other Shady? Don’t forget him.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 11:18 am
by Honky Tonk Man
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:55 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
------------
As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
The guru would prefer Koperniak over Burleson, no doubt. Guru is one smart cookie about players in the organization.
And his opinions are just that opinions and very selective reporting all to fit his shallow narrative
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 11:21 am
by Shady
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 11:18 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:55 am
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:25 am
craviduce wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:18 am
Shaddy's goalposts move constantly, they're covered in Weather Vane-onomics....whichever way the wind blows.
After 4 games, he's ditching Saggese once again. Interesting, he proclaims that Burley is "right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP."
If we use Shady's 4 game weather vane and apply it the above declaration, we can get to the bottom of this, and ascertain the validity of this possibly absurd
to be fair to Burley, let's look at the last 7 games....
Burley ~ .179 BA, .641 OPS
Gorman ~ .240 BA, .865 OPS ....incredible, this is the guy that Shaddy constantly wants to replace with Saggese, but Shady has now given up on Saggese...again.
Contreras ~ .200, .640 OPS
Arenado ~ .259 BA, .791 OPS
Nootbaar ~ .280, 1.100 OPS
------------
As you can see, Shady, is lying again....or he's not capable of properly reading box scores the next day?
"right now" , Burley isn't the "most feared hitter"....not by Shady's very own Weather Vane Metric.
Should we expect...no, should be demand, Shady be consistent and CONDEM Burley and shun him as he so often does after 2 or 3 games with likes of Saggese?
How is that Matt Koperniak love work
The guru would prefer Koperniak over Burleson, no doubt. Guru is one smart cookie about players in the organization.
And his opinions are just that opinions and very selective reporting all to fit his shallow narrative
Right on. But, just the same, he's the CT guru.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
by Adam2
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:55 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:51 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
Wasn’t aware you were proven right about Burlseon yet. Still the dreaded second half to go.
Now, would drinking Burly sweat help Sagesse? Curious to hear honkey tonk’s thoughts.
Not sure about the second half. But, right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP.
Doesn't matter whether you are correct or incorrect on any topic or player. As long as you keep making multiple accounts and talk to yourself, everyone will continue to laugh at you for your lack of intelligence and self awareness.
Therefore, you will continue to get zero credit from anyone on this forum except your own puppet accounts
If you stopped that you might be surprised that people may take your input seriously. I personally might. Sometimes you have solid topics, but you blow all your legitimacy by then responding to yourself with a separate account. I don't need to name them. Everybody already knows
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 12:57 pm
by Absolut
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:34 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:33 am
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:29 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:20 am
He got hits in his first two games back and faced some pretty elite pitching the last two.
Maybe give him a few more at-bats before judging one individual on a team that combined for 0 runs and 5 hits total in 2 days.
You’re asking an awful lot of Shady.
Shady saw Burleson's rise to being a fine MLB hitting coming. Did you ? Probably not. There were a lot of CT doubters regarding Burleson.
What does that have to do with Saggese? It took 2 replies for you to get off topic.
Attention span of a dead fungus.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 12:57 pm
by Cusecards
Honky Tonk Man wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 10:13 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:55 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:51 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
Wasn’t aware you were proven right about Burlseon yet. Still the dreaded second half to go.
Now, would drinking Burly sweat help Sagesse? Curious to hear honkey tonk’s thoughts.
Not sure about the second half. But, right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP.
I think Burleson has figured things out and is becoming the complete player you always said he would be.
“Sock” it to me!!!!!
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 14:11 pm
by Shady
Adam2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:55 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:51 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
Wasn’t aware you were proven right about Burlseon yet. Still the dreaded second half to go.
Now, would drinking Burly sweat help Sagesse? Curious to hear honkey tonk’s thoughts.
Not sure about the second half. But, right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP.
Doesn't matter whether you are correct or incorrect on any topic or player. As long as you keep making multiple accounts and talk to yourself, everyone will continue to laugh at you for your lack of intelligence and self awareness.
Therefore, you will continue to get zero credit from anyone on this forum except your own puppet accounts
If you stopped that you might be surprised that people may take your input seriously. I personally might. Sometimes you have solid topics, but you blow all your legitimacy by then responding to yourself with a separate account. I don't need to name them. Everybody already knows
There's one big problem with your bogus speculation. It's totally baseless manure. Oh the marvelous ability to spew anonymous bullchit on the internet like you thrive on.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 14:15 pm
by Jatalk
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
I’ll bet you a cheeseburger Burleson has big slump before year end. He is not hall of fame yet.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 14:22 pm
by Shady
Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 14:15 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
I’ll bet you a cheeseburger Burleson has big slump before year end. He is not hall of fame yet.
You think it will be a slump like Contreras had earlier in the season. I don't envision Burleson striking out as much as Contreras did.
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 14:33 pm
by Jatalk
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 14:22 pm
Jatalk wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 14:15 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
I’ll bet you a cheeseburger Burleson has big slump before year end. He is not hall of fame yet.
You think it will be a slump like Contreras had earlier in the season. I don't envision Burleson striking out as much as Contreras did.
How bad depends on how his playing time works out. Don’t get me wrong I’m excited about him but he has shown promise before. How would you define a bad slump?
Re: Saggese doesn't look as confident as the last time he was up
Posted: 27 Jun 2025 14:40 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 14:11 pm
Adam2 wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 12:18 pm
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:55 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:51 am
Shady wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:46 am
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑27 Jun 2025 09:40 am
Do you think Sagesse would do better if he drank Burly sweat instead of gatorade?
You are likely another poster (and there were many), that was wrong on Burleson. Now you try to make light of it. I know your silly game.
Wasn’t aware you were proven right about Burlseon yet. Still the dreaded second half to go.
Now, would drinking Burly sweat help Sagesse? Curious to hear honkey tonk’s thoughts.
Not sure about the second half. But, right now, Burleson is the most feared hitter in the Cardinals' lineup. A lot of managers don't seem too crazy about having him hit against RHP.
Doesn't matter whether you are correct or incorrect on any topic or player. As long as you keep making multiple accounts and talk to yourself, everyone will continue to laugh at you for your lack of intelligence and self awareness.
Therefore, you will continue to get zero credit from anyone on this forum except your own puppet accounts
If you stopped that you might be surprised that people may take your input seriously. I personally might. Sometimes you have solid topics, but you blow all your legitimacy by then responding to yourself with a separate account. I don't need to name them. Everybody already knows
There's one big problem with your bogus speculation. It's totally baseless manure. Oh the marvelous ability to spew anonymous bullchit on the internet like you thrive on.
All he was saying that if you stopped being such a (redacted), people would give you the “baseball discussion” you claim to crave.