Shady/Hardmaple/1,000othernamesmoose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 07:57 ama players name is not the same as a posters name.. really wierd.. the post already shows the OP's name.. very Shady likeTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑22 Jun 2025 22:41 pmThere are often thread titles using a players name- just helps to distinguish it from others (if there are any)
Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
Play nice
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Why would any poster want to trade productive, cost controlled players?
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
Exactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
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The move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
If the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
I hear ya. But it’s the kind of move that must be made if we are serious and want to be a league power. Why else reset.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
It’s only money. As noted, payroll changes minimal.
Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
You don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
NO and NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes he does.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 11:24 amYou don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
BDWJr isn't going to give Tucker a $375-400M deal.
He'll never give any player that.
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
Finally an example of what will happen. We ain’t Paying; so we ain’t playing with the big boys. Just that simple. Bravo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 14:37 pmYes he does.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 11:24 amYou don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
BDWJr isn't going to give Tucker a $375-400M deal.
He'll never give any player that.
Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
Nice post and good discussion -- no chance TB is shady, he is offering too much analysis and even making suggestions. The birds may not get to choose whom they trade, somebody has to want what they have and be willing to match what the cards will be asking for in return. This is why i believe you have to make everyone available and have a price in mind for each player. If you get an offer that matches or comes close or even exceeds what you want you start talking. The bigger problem?? Other teams will be doing the same thing.
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Do you think we can spend like the big dogs?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:07 pmFinally an example of what will happen. We ain’t Paying; so we ain’t playing with the big boys. Just that simple. Bravo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 14:37 pmYes he does.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 11:24 amYou don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
BDWJr isn't going to give Tucker a $375-400M deal.
He'll never give any player that.
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Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
Doesn’t matter. That’s the new game in sports/ big money. Till we spend, we must trade or develop. We o Pujols. Molina. Same time.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:47 pmDo you think we can spend like the big dogs?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:07 pmFinally an example of what will happen. We ain’t Paying; so we ain’t playing with the big boys. Just that simple. Bravo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 14:37 pmYes he does.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 11:24 amYou don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
BDWJr isn't going to give Tucker a $375-400M deal.
He'll never give any player that.
That won’t happen again in our time.
Re: Alec Burleson/Andre Pallante (TB)
sure they can but there is a lot more risk for a middle mkt team -- i don't think they should until after the next CBA.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:47 pmDo you think we can spend like the big dogs?sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 15:07 pmFinally an example of what will happen. We ain’t Paying; so we ain’t playing with the big boys. Just that simple. Bravo.rockondlouie wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 14:37 pmYes he does.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 11:24 amYou don't know that.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 10:52 amIf the Cardinals could move Arenado and Gray they could sign Tucker without payroll changing much. However, the Cardinals aren't signing Tucker whether they move these two, or not.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:41 amThe move is to go all n Kyle Tucker. That’s a franchise change.Cranny wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:36 amExactly. You don’t know if they’ll fit in as well.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025 09:09 amIf you do this you get back one slightly better performer. Lose two gain one of same caliber plus upset team chemistry.
Not a good trade.
BDWJr isn't going to give Tucker a $375-400M deal.
He'll never give any player that.