60 year Cardinal fan wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 19:32 pm
Maybe he was thinking about the 50’s, 60’s,etc when there didn’t seem to be so may games missed. Some of the old time players said if they could crawl out of bed, they played. They didn’t have long term contracts in those day and they didn’t want to take chance on losing their job (Wally Pipp). I’m not saying this was best, but unless my memory is wrong, most of them played every day and this often included a couple of double headers each month.
Injuries also used to end careers back then instead of just landing them on the IL or they never fully recovered from them and sucked. You can’t compare the eras completely different game. They also didn’t lift weights back then
I used to go to work at a steel mill with a hangover when I was in my early twenties. Had to go inside furnaces and wreck slag coated fire brick with a ladle bar with temps so hot your boots would be smoking. Worked about 5/10 minutes and got out for the next crew to get in. You could not withstand being in there any longer...........
BUT - I could not throw curve balls or 90 mph fastballs. I could not hit either of those with authority, either.
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 19:51 pm
We are about to fire a guy who has called in 9 times this year. Apparently he's gotten so blasted a few times he called in on Saturday or Sunday not even knowing he was already off.
That’s wild. Calling in when you are already off. He’s loves getting hammered.
OldRed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 17:55 pm
Did you ever go wo work with a hangover, a bruised hand, a bruised rib or a bruised pulled muscle? Seriously, how many of these baseball players could even play in the NHL? Or be a labor, or an iron worker on a major construction when on a job the temperature is approaching 100?
You're suggesting that all those with ailments, self induced or otherwise, always go to work??? Or every NHL player has a consecutive games played streak going??? Do you even know what the work absentee rate in construction is? How many robust workers can catch nearly 162+ games a year?
How many could come back a year later after having their skull crushed by a fastball and still hit?
CorneliusWolfe wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 18:11 pm
I imagine most of our jobs don’t exactly require world-class peak conditioning to compete with everyone else. If I just show up and stay halfway busy I can outwork a lot of the other employees.
Lol, exactly. Well, not in my case of course. NOONE can replace my incompetence.
OldRed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 17:55 pm
Did you ever go wo work with a hangover, a bruised hand, a bruised rib or a bruised pulled muscle? Seriously, how many of these baseball players could even play in the NHL? Or be a labor, or an iron worker on a major construction when on a job the temperature is approaching 100?
OldRed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 17:55 pm
Did you ever go wo work with a hangover, a bruised hand, a bruised rib or a bruised pulled muscle? Seriously, how many of these baseball players could even play in the NHL? Or be a labor, or an iron worker on a major construction when on a job the temperature is approaching 100?
Have you ever been sick Red? Did you go to work every time?
Do you want the cook at your restaurant preparing your food if he/she has the flu? Do you want a surgeon working on you or your family with a broken finger?
And how many of those heroic construction workers do you know of that could pitch a baseball 100 mph? Or hit a 87 mph curve?
You're trying to compare apples to typewriters.
And comparing NHL players who play 82 games in temperature controlled arenas to 162 games in every thing from freezing cold to heatwaves to rain
You've made two posts on this topic so far that I"ve read. In the first you mentioned "if all baseball players had to do was skate around the ice on a bad leg......."
In both posts you've failed to mention that with this impression of ice capades you think hockey players exhibit that there are guys that are built like brick shithouses skating at 15-20 miles an hour trying to murder you. Have you ever been slammed into a solid piece of boarding or glass with very little give? Ever been whacked non stop with a stick on an injured hand, leg, etc? I mean you legit think hockey is nothing more than skating and baseball guys are tough because they play in the heat.
Ridiculous take. The OP premise is silly but if you think baseball players, or any athletes for that matter, are tougher than hockey players, you clearly don't know the meaning of the word tough.
OldRed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 17:55 pm
Did you ever go wo work with a hangover, a bruised hand, a bruised rib or a bruised pulled muscle? Seriously, how many of these baseball players could even play in the NHL? Or be a labor, or an iron worker on a major construction when on a job the temperature is approaching 100?
Have you ever been sick Red? Did you go to work every time?
Do you want the cook at your restaurant preparing your food if he/she has the flu? Do you want a surgeon working on you or your family with a broken finger?
And how many of those heroic construction workers do you know of that could pitch a baseball 100 mph? Or hit a 87 mph curve?
You're trying to compare apples to typewriters.
And comparing NHL players who play 82 games in temperature controlled arenas to 162 games in every thing from freezing cold to heatwaves to rain
You've made two posts on this topic so far that I"ve read. In the first you mentioned "if all baseball players had to do was skate around the ice on a bad leg......."
In both posts you've failed to mention that with this impression of ice capades you think hockey players exhibit that there are guys that are built like brick shithouses skating at 15-20 miles an hour trying to murder you. Have you ever been slammed into a solid piece of boarding or glass with very little give? Ever been whacked non stop with a stick on an injured hand, leg, etc? I mean you legit think hockey is nothing more than skating and baseball guys are tough because they play in the heat.
Ridiculous take. The OP premise is silly but if you think baseball players, or any athletes for that matter, are tougher than hockey players, you clearly don't know the meaning of the word tough.
And they play in shifts going max full out for 45-60 seconds repeatedly. A constant sprint on skates with a human hanging on you.
And we aren’t even talking getting hit by puck yet.
OldRed wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 17:55 pm
Did you ever go wo work with a hangover, a bruised hand, a bruised rib or a bruised pulled muscle? Seriously, how many of these baseball players could even play in the NHL? Or be a labor, or an iron worker on a major construction when on a job the temperature is approaching 100?
Yes I have. Get home drunk at 3AM and be at work at 6AM. Spent some time hauling hay, road maintance, construction. Often bruised, drunk, hurting... Now the hangover part is a choice, if I'd been making millions, I might have avoided the hangover part. So if the players are showing up drunk/hungover that's on them and it needs to stop. I'm not saying they can't have a drink but if the drinking is affecting their play and the team..........well we need new players.
