I’ve watched both guy. You can put up anything you like. You’re right…not worth the timenoted wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:25 pmSo just not going to address the facts that Broberg was a better player…ok - not worth timetheograce wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:23 pmI’ve watched both play. I don’t think Broberg got manhandled. I know he did…to the extent a 160 pound goaltender felt the need to protect him while he turned his back snd went limp. Imagine the Panthers against him lolnoted wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:01 pmYou think Broberg gets manhandled? Have you watched Owen Power play in the NHL?theograce wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 21:16 pmBroberg is not better right now. Come on now. He gets manhandled and has so much learning to do away from the puck. Even with the puck lots of growingnoted wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 21:06 pmThe only one he is currently better than is Tucker. He has the potential to be the best of the bunch but Broberg and Fowler are better than Power on 6/19/25bluetunehead wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:18 pmWell he’s better than all three.Cardsfan1586 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:03 pm What’s your offer? And where do you play him if we have Fowler, Broberg, Tucker?
Broberg - GF% 63.3 / DFF% 50.4 / REL DFF% 2
Power - GF% 48.4 / DFF% 48.5 / REL DFF% -0.30
Lots of teams Calling on Power
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Re: Lots of teams Calling on Power
So seeing some statistical stuff being thrown around, i gotta be honest, we're looking at power a bit wrong. It's like looking at Fowler in Anaheim and saying "why did we get this guy". Pretty sure by the end of the season other teams were saying 'how did they get this guy for so little' because suddenly he went from negative values on corsi and other metrics to positive. he went way higher in offensive shares and his defensive shares returned to form.
Anyways, if Buffalo is dumb enough to trade him, you sort out how much it takes. We're close to good enough to make a playoff run, but he would likely give us a longer runway to be good so i'd be ok with moving a bit sideways short term if thats what it took. However, i suspect most teams will be kicking tires, and that the price will be quite high. I would hope that their GM isn't that big of a fool for their fans sake and that he realizes how bad they need veteran leadership in their middle 6 tier to kinda push them into a more hungry competitive style of play, right now that team is too young to get it i feel.
Anyways, if Buffalo is dumb enough to trade him, you sort out how much it takes. We're close to good enough to make a playoff run, but he would likely give us a longer runway to be good so i'd be ok with moving a bit sideways short term if thats what it took. However, i suspect most teams will be kicking tires, and that the price will be quite high. I would hope that their GM isn't that big of a fool for their fans sake and that he realizes how bad they need veteran leadership in their middle 6 tier to kinda push them into a more hungry competitive style of play, right now that team is too young to get it i feel.
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That’s the problem. Guys think they are stats heros here.JoshInFenton wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:47 pm So seeing some statistical stuff being thrown around, i gotta be honest
They would have said the same about jones in Chicago
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Just looked it up for curiosity sakes, how the heck does a 6ft 6 defenseman only record 26 hits in a season? He should be registering hits for accidentally bumping into guys.
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Because Power currently plays like a paper tiger. He could be good if got proper coaching but he’s not right now.Younghopp1991 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:01 am Just looked it up for curiosity sakes, how the heck does a 6ft 6 defenseman only record 26 hits in a season? He should be registering hits for accidentally bumping into guys.
theograce pretending like he knows anything about hockey rather than just being the troll that he lives to be is all that is happening here again
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BLUES FANS know how good he is.Sudsy 11 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:25 pmBroberg was also + 9 in the Winnipeg series and is +20 in 27 playoff games. Blues fans may be underestimating how good he is already becuase his scoring pace decreased after returning from injury early in the year.Atlantis17A wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:18 pm Byrum’s numbers tanked when not paired with Dahlin which was more than half of his playing time. Broberg is also bigger, has better analytics and I saw no problems with his physicality. We also have several left handed defenseman in the system. I like Byram but I would pass.
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Byrum's concussion history makes him a "hard no" for me.Atlantis17A wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:18 pm Byrum’s numbers tanked when not paired with Dahlin which was more than half of his playing time. Broberg is also bigger, has better analytics and I saw no problems with his physicality. We also have several left handed defenseman in the system. I like Byram but I would pass.
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Broberg is 6’4 … how many hits does he have in his career?noted wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:17 amBecause Power currently plays like a paper tiger. He could be good if got proper coaching but he’s not right now.Younghopp1991 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:01 am Just looked it up for curiosity sakes, how the heck does a 6ft 6 defenseman only record 26 hits in a season? He should be registering hits for accidentally bumping into guys.
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If he was an RD, yes he would be worth the assets to get him. No way I'm spending assets to add to a position that doesn't need to be fixed. We've got current roster players who play well and Broberg is young with some upside as he continues to develop. Our pipeline of prospects on D is also largely LDs. Whatever assets it would cost would be better spent on a RD or C.
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We don't need Owen Power, not to mention the cost it would take to acquire him. What in the name of all that's holy is going on here?
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Last year Broberg had 43 hits in 68 games = 0.63 hits/gametheograce wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:08 amBroberg is 6’4 … how many hits does he have in his career?noted wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:17 amBecause Power currently plays like a paper tiger. He could be good if got proper coaching but he’s not right now.Younghopp1991 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:01 am Just looked it up for curiosity sakes, how the heck does a 6ft 6 defenseman only record 26 hits in a season? He should be registering hits for accidentally bumping into guys.
Last year Power had 26 hits in 79 games - 0.33 hits/game
Just keep stepping into the batters box and wiffing away theo
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Oh I’m aware. That physical force Broberg that needed Binnington to save him.noted wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:57 amLast year Broberg had 43 hits in 68 games = 0.63 hits/gametheograce wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:08 amBroberg is 6’4 … how many hits does he have in his career?noted wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:17 amBecause Power currently plays like a paper tiger. He could be good if got proper coaching but he’s not right now.Younghopp1991 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 06:01 am Just looked it up for curiosity sakes, how the heck does a 6ft 6 defenseman only record 26 hits in a season? He should be registering hits for accidentally bumping into guys.
Last year Power had 26 hits in 79 games - 0.33 hits/game
Just keep stepping into the batters box and wiffing away theo
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And now a SC coach gave him the most ATOI on a Cup team. That’s the pointBalotelliMassive wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:17 amHe was terrible in Chicago - he made the most and gave the least effort.
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Yup...he was the sole reason why that team was great...theograce wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 09:27 amAnd now a SC coach gave him the most ATOI on a Cup team. That’s the pointBalotelliMassive wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025 08:17 amHe was terrible in Chicago - he made the most and gave the least effort.
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Don't quote stats and facts. Some people hate that stuff.noted wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 22:01 pmYou think Broberg gets manhandled? Have you watched Owen Power play in the NHL?theograce wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 21:16 pmBroberg is not better right now. Come on now. He gets manhandled and has so much learning to do away from the puck. Even with the puck lots of growingnoted wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 21:06 pmThe only one he is currently better than is Tucker. He has the potential to be the best of the bunch but Broberg and Fowler are better than Power on 6/19/25bluetunehead wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:18 pmWell he’s better than all three.Cardsfan1586 wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025 19:03 pm What’s your offer? And where do you play him if we have Fowler, Broberg, Tucker?
Broberg - GF% 63.3 / DFF% 50.4 / REL DFF% 2
Power - GF% 48.4 / DFF% 48.5 / REL DFF% -0.30

There is always the question with players like Broberg or Power if they are products of their team (good or bad). We know in Broberg we have that player you listed, he will grow, and the cost was very reasonable. There is no way you can get Power for a cost that low and no guarantee he will work out as well as say Seth Jones has. The asset cost for Power isn't worth it for Power.