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Re: Petro

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theograce wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:35 am
Old_Goat wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:27 am
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:07 pm
leedog68 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 20:35 pm Surprised it hasn't been mentioned here (if so I missed it), but Spectors has mentioned a few times that Petro may end up on LTIR and may actually be done for good. I really don't know the extent of his injury.
I wouldn’t say that not having the heart or desire to play isn’t a LTIR situation.
But Petro makes his own rules….whatever is best for Petro.
That’s why Armstrong thinks of him every time he walks by statues … it hurts you so much … monkey sounds

Laughing
Binnington or Parayko will get a statue before Petrangelo. Petro happened to be wearing a C and therefore raised the Cup first, but O'Reilly was the de facto leader of the team and Parayko and Boumeister were much more valuable defensemen on that team. Had the Blues lost that series Petrangelo would just be a notable footnote in the history of the team. After all, Al Arbour wore the C for THREE trips to the finals.
Armstrong thinking about him every time he walks by MacInnis and Hull is awesome hey.
Petro thinking about Jamie Benn every time he skates near him.
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Old_Goat wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:38 am
theograce wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:35 am Armstrong thinking about him every time he walks by MacInnis and Hull is awesome hey.
Petro thinking about Jamie Benn every time he skates near him.
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Re: Petro

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Old_Goat wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:38 am
theograce wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:35 am
Old_Goat wrote: 19 Jun 2025 09:27 am
theograce wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:14 pm
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:07 pm
leedog68 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 20:35 pm Surprised it hasn't been mentioned here (if so I missed it), but Spectors has mentioned a few times that Petro may end up on LTIR and may actually be done for good. I really don't know the extent of his injury.
I wouldn’t say that not having the heart or desire to play isn’t a LTIR situation.
But Petro makes his own rules….whatever is best for Petro.
That’s why Armstrong thinks of him every time he walks by statues … it hurts you so much … monkey sounds

Laughing
Binnington or Parayko will get a statue before Petrangelo. Petro happened to be wearing a C and therefore raised the Cup first, but O'Reilly was the de facto leader of the team and Parayko and Boumeister were much more valuable defensemen on that team. Had the Blues lost that series Petrangelo would just be a notable footnote in the history of the team. After all, Al Arbour wore the C for THREE trips to the finals.
Armstrong thinking about him every time he walks by MacInnis and Hull is awesome hey.
Petro thinking about Jamie Benn every time he skates near him.
You don’t think Army thinking about him every time he walks by statues is awesome? How come?
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MandatoryDenial wrote: 19 Jun 2025 00:05 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:07 pm
leedog68 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 20:35 pm Surprised it hasn't been mentioned here (if so I missed it), but Spectors has mentioned a few times that Petro may end up on LTIR and may actually be done for good. I really don't know the extent of his injury.
I wouldn’t say that not having the heart or desire to play isn’t a LTIR situation.
But Petro makes his own rules….whatever is best for Petro.
Wow, couldn't stop laughing after I read that. Bait post if I ever saw one. Well done. It was swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
Some things are too easy.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
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I saw something similar posted on reddit a little while back, but didn't see a source or anything attached to it. Either way, whoever is speculating it's family stuff factored in, that wouldn't matter for LTIR. The NHL is currently investigating the LTIR case for Kane with the Oilers to find out if he was actually healthy enough to be on the roster before the playoffs. Petro can't just decide he's injured and go to LTIR. There has to be documented proof that he can't play hockey for him to receive the paycheck and do LTIR.

The NHL will be on more high alert about this stuff I'd assume considering the PED scandal and now this Kane thing from this years finals. If Petro is done with hockey, I'd assume it's an announced retirement. I don't think he had a career ender like Krug is possibly going thru and Landeskog battled thru.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:25 am I saw something similar posted on reddit a little while back, but didn't see a source or anything attached to it. Either way, whoever is speculating it's family stuff factored in, that wouldn't matter for LTIR. The NHL is currently investigating the LTIR case for Kane with the Oilers to find out if he was actually healthy enough to be on the roster before the playoffs. Petro can't just decide he's injured and go to LTIR. There has to be documented proof that he can't play hockey for him to receive the paycheck and do LTIR.

The NHL will be on more high alert about this stuff I'd assume considering the PED scandal and now this Kane thing from this years finals. If Petro is done with hockey, I'd assume it's an announced retirement. I don't think he had a career ender like Krug is possibly going thru and Landeskog battled thru.
They can always claim a spleen injury. It's worked for them already.
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:roll:
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:25 am I saw something similar posted on reddit a little while back, but didn't see a source or anything attached to it. Either way, whoever is speculating it's family stuff factored in, that wouldn't matter for LTIR. The NHL is currently investigating the LTIR case for Kane with the Oilers to find out if he was actually healthy enough to be on the roster before the playoffs. Petro can't just decide he's injured and go to LTIR. There has to be documented proof that he can't play hockey for him to receive the paycheck and do LTIR.

The NHL will be on more high alert about this stuff I'd assume considering the PED scandal and now this Kane thing from this years finals. If Petro is done with hockey, I'd assume it's an announced retirement. I don't think he had a career ender like Krug is possibly going thru and Landeskog battled thru.
What more proof does the league need that Kane wasn't [mentally] fit to play hockey?
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Bubble4427 wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:09 am
MandatoryDenial wrote: 19 Jun 2025 00:05 am
Bubble4427 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 21:07 pm
leedog68 wrote: 18 Jun 2025 20:35 pm Surprised it hasn't been mentioned here (if so I missed it), but Spectors has mentioned a few times that Petro may end up on LTIR and may actually be done for good. I really don't know the extent of his injury.
I wouldn’t say that not having the heart or desire to play isn’t a LTIR situation.
But Petro makes his own rules….whatever is best for Petro.
Wow, couldn't stop laughing after I read that. Bait post if I ever saw one. Well done. It was swallowed hook, line, and sinker.
Some things are too easy.
Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wait so now you’re admitting you’re only thinking about me and don’t believe those things. You just are trolling me specifically?

Hahahaha what a complete own
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Re: Petro

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DawgDad wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:37 am :roll:
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:25 am I saw something similar posted on reddit a little while back, but didn't see a source or anything attached to it. Either way, whoever is speculating it's family stuff factored in, that wouldn't matter for LTIR. The NHL is currently investigating the LTIR case for Kane with the Oilers to find out if he was actually healthy enough to be on the roster before the playoffs. Petro can't just decide he's injured and go to LTIR. There has to be documented proof that he can't play hockey for him to receive the paycheck and do LTIR.

The NHL will be on more high alert about this stuff I'd assume considering the PED scandal and now this Kane thing from this years finals. If Petro is done with hockey, I'd assume it's an announced retirement. I don't think he had a career ender like Krug is possibly going thru and Landeskog battled thru.
What more proof does the league need that Kane wasn't [mentally] fit to play hockey?
Dude is definitely a clown show. But it's pretty egregious if what the claim that happened is true. Apparently the Oilers are being accused that his surgeries could have happened at the same time and been back by December/January but they chose to space them out deliberately so they could run him up against the LTIR window for playoffs so they could improve their chances from the year before. It's hilarious the league has gotten to this point. Tampa, Vegas, Oilers, ETC... everyone just blatantly ripping the rules because its deemed as a necessity. Florida and Avs seemingly did it but in the right way. Tkachuk is actually injured and the PED thing is the league having a stupid rule. And then Landeskog is the miracle player. I'm all for feel good stories like that.

Petro having hurt feelings shouldn't allow him to go to LTIR and get paid. He was skating till the end. That's retirement or he's coming back.
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From yesterday.

NHL insider extraordinaire Elliotte Friedman has once again raised eyebrows with his recent comments regarding Alex Pietrangelo’s health. Speaking on Toronto’s The Fan 590, Friedman expressed genuine concern that the 35-year-old stalwart might not be ready to hit the ice when the 2025-26 season kicks off.

Link: https://www.nhltraderumor.com/alex-piet ... ch-marner/
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larueskee wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:18 am From yesterday.

NHL insider extraordinaire Elliotte Friedman has once again raised eyebrows with his recent comments regarding Alex Pietrangelo’s health. Speaking on Toronto’s The Fan 590, Friedman expressed genuine concern that the 35-year-old stalwart might not be ready to hit the ice when the 2025-26 season kicks off.

Link: https://www.nhltraderumor.com/alex-piet ... ch-marner/
Just one question... what is/are the alleged injurie(s)? Nobody seems to be talking about it/them.
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callitwhatyouwant wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:13 am
DawgDad wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:37 am :roll:
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 19 Jun 2025 10:25 am I saw something similar posted on reddit a little while back, but didn't see a source or anything attached to it. Either way, whoever is speculating it's family stuff factored in, that wouldn't matter for LTIR. The NHL is currently investigating the LTIR case for Kane with the Oilers to find out if he was actually healthy enough to be on the roster before the playoffs. Petro can't just decide he's injured and go to LTIR. There has to be documented proof that he can't play hockey for him to receive the paycheck and do LTIR.

The NHL will be on more high alert about this stuff I'd assume considering the PED scandal and now this Kane thing from this years finals. If Petro is done with hockey, I'd assume it's an announced retirement. I don't think he had a career ender like Krug is possibly going thru and Landeskog battled thru.
What more proof does the league need that Kane wasn't [mentally] fit to play hockey?
Dude is definitely a clown show. But it's pretty egregious if what the claim that happened is true. Apparently the Oilers are being accused that his surgeries could have happened at the same time and been back by December/January but they chose to space them out deliberately so they could run him up against the LTIR window for playoffs so they could improve their chances from the year before. It's hilarious the league has gotten to this point. Tampa, Vegas, Oilers, ETC... everyone just blatantly ripping the rules because its deemed as a necessity. Florida and Avs seemingly did it but in the right way. Tkachuk is actually injured and the PED thing is the league having a stupid rule. And then Landeskog is the miracle player. I'm all for feel good stories like that.

Petro having hurt feelings shouldn't allow him to go to LTIR and get paid. He was skating till the end. That's retirement or he's coming back.
Also on Kane and what Dawg said, while I am completely aware of how debilitating mental issues can be, the dude was a known clown show and EDM decided to sign him long-term anyways. LTIR should not be able to bail them out for that now.

I would say the same thing about Petro. VGK chose to sign him to a long contract. LTIR shouldn't be able to be used as a "get out of contract free once it is a detriment/player gets to have a paid year off" card.
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MiamiLaw wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:24 am
I would say the same thing about Petro. VGK chose to sign him to a long contract. LTIR shouldn't be able to be used as a "get out of contract free once it is a detriment/player gets to have a paid year off" card.
You and I can think what we want, but the NHLPA protects players for these real issues.

That paragraph implies things that you have no understanding of. There’s obviously lots going on.
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theograce wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:27 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:24 am
I would say the same thing about Petro. VGK chose to sign him to a long contract. LTIR shouldn't be able to be used as a "get out of contract free once it is a detriment/player gets to have a paid year off" card.
You and I can think what we want, but the NHLPA protects players for these real issues.

That paragraph implies things that you have no understanding of. There’s obviously lots going on.
That's fair. I don't know the full story about Petro particularly. But, I mean, we aren't so naive to say that LTIR is not being strategically abused when needed right?
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Aesa wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:24 am
larueskee wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:18 am From yesterday.

NHL insider extraordinaire Elliotte Friedman has once again raised eyebrows with his recent comments regarding Alex Pietrangelo’s health. Speaking on Toronto’s The Fan 590, Friedman expressed genuine concern that the 35-year-old stalwart might not be ready to hit the ice when the 2025-26 season kicks off.

Link: https://www.nhltraderumor.com/alex-piet ... ch-marner/
Just one question... what is/are the alleged injurie(s)? Nobody seems to be talking about it/them.
Good question I did find this.
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The Vegas Golden Knights are in for an offseason of questions about player extensions and Free Agency signings. Now, another question emerges regarding the health of top-four defenseman Alex Pietrangelo.

The veteran defenseman missed 11 games last season due to injury and even withdrew from the 4 Nations Face-Off Tournament. However, he returned for the postseason and did not admit to playing through a long-term injury.

On Friday’s episode of the 32 Thoughts Podcast, Elliotte Friedman and Kyle Bukauskas discussed Pietrangelo’s long-term health.

“Whether it was Vegas or St. Louis before that, Alex Pietrangelo has long been a guy that teams need,” said Bukauskas. “Pietrangelo skipped the 4 Nations this year; Canada would have loved to have him. He prioritized trying to get his body in the best shape possible for the stretch drive with Vegas this season. What are you hearing with regards to his future, as this is a player that has logged a lot of hard miles over the course of his career?”

“Every year, I hear, ‘Oh, Pietrangelo is so badly beaten up, and he’s put his body through so much, and he’s not going to be able to play next season,’” responded Friedman. “And every year I get told, ‘That’s wrong.’ And every year, he’s back, and he plays, and he plays hard, and he plays great.

“You’ll remember that the NHL and the countries have an agreement [about naming Olympic teams],” Friedman continued. “The full team is the end of December, but they have to name six players by the end of June. The dates aren’t set up yet, but it sounds like it could potentially be the week of [June] 16th— which is a week and a half from now. I put together a long list for all these teams of who could be on it, and I had Pietrangelo on that list. And someone indicated to me that he might not be available.

“I don’t have any confirmation on that yet,” finished Friedman. “I still think it’s one of those things where, at this time of year, teams are trying to figure out what their rosters might look like for next year and [if there are] any injury concerns. So, we’ll see what happens with Pietrangelo… But it sounds like there’s at least the possibility that they’re trying to figure out what his health will be like for the start of next season.”

Friedman added that he was uncertain about the nature of Pietrangelo’s injury.

“You saw him in the playoffs. It looked like it could have been anything— knee, hip, groin. I just don’t know.”
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MiamiLaw wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:28 am
theograce wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:27 am
MiamiLaw wrote: 19 Jun 2025 11:24 am
I would say the same thing about Petro. VGK chose to sign him to a long contract. LTIR shouldn't be able to be used as a "get out of contract free once it is a detriment/player gets to have a paid year off" card.
You and I can think what we want, but the NHLPA protects players for these real issues.

That paragraph implies things that you have no understanding of. There’s obviously lots going on.
That's fair. I don't know the full story about Petro particularly. But, I mean, we aren't so naive to say that LTIR is not being strategically abused when needed right?
That’s a default for people. To assume manipulation. I mean you think a guy like that just chose to not attend 4 Nations because he was malingering? Didn’t feel like it? Missed games at the end of the season just because?
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