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Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:44 pm
by craviduce
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:38 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:02 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
evidence? Please, give us the evidence.
Right now, Helsley would be rental for any team, and he's having a very bad year, and an extremely bad stretch of games. He wouldn't get both, probably wouldn't get either one.
You said the same 2 years ago with Dylan Carlson. Then you said the same about Arenado for 6 straight months last year...daily.
How do remember all this Shady history? Actually, I see it as a left-handed compliment from the Ru. Helsley will command at least one prime prospect in a deadline trade.
Again...how will a closer trending in the wrong direction, who is a 2-3 month rental, yield a Top prospect? What evidence do you have to back up the claim?
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:44 pm
by Shady
ClassicO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:36 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:45 pm
ClassicO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:42 pm
Has anyone tried fried dill pickle slices?
Why the nonsense? This is a timely Cardinals baseball topic. Obviously, you don't feel the need to discuss baseball. Just go away.
MY nonsense? Look in the mirror. These types of responses mean 'don't pay attention to the troll!'
Because you're like a cocaine addict on a bachelor trip = won't shut up - ever - and won't stop talking stupid.
Your topic is like saying, "I want world peace." It's fluff. It's impossible. And it's just words without any reasonable explanation as to how.
Get a stud pitcher and power hitter!! Oh, okay. Provide a reasonable explanation as to how -- or you are the bachelor trip dude?
This is a Cardinals baseball discussion message board. Go somewhere else if it bothers you to see other posters having baseball discussion. I identified Helsley as being a prime chip that could get at least one of the objectives I suggested.Quit trying to cause trouble. Go away. You won't be missed.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:52 pm
by Shady
craviduce wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:44 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:38 pm
craviduce wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:02 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
evidence? Please, give us the evidence.
Right now, Helsley would be rental for any team, and he's having a very bad year, and an extremely bad stretch of games. He wouldn't get both, probably wouldn't get either one.
You said the same 2 years ago with Dylan Carlson. Then you said the same about Arenado for 6 straight months last year...daily.
How do remember all this Shady history? Actually, I see it as a left-handed compliment from the Ru. Helsley will command at least one prime prospect in a deadline trade.
Again...how will a closer trending in the wrong direction, who is a 2-3 month rental, yield a Top prospect? What evidence do you have to back up the claim?
It's my opinion. Like it or lump it Ru.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:56 pm
by Cusecards
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:57 pm
by Shady
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?
Stay tuned. Some team just might be really starved for a deep playoffs run.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 22:59 pm
by Cusecards
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?
Stay tuned. Some team just might be really starved for a deep playoffs run.
I’ll be here and watching daily as usual.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 23:26 pm
by CorneliusWolfe
What the hell has Roby or Sagesse done for this team anyway? And who has proclaimed either of them “studs”other than the one lone (redacted) we all know so well here?
And no one is sweetening any pot or giving us a (bleep) thing for Alec Burleson.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 16 Jun 2025 23:33 pm
by scoutyjones2
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:40 pm
Out of the trade deadline sale. Similar to getting Saggese and Roby for Montgomery and Stratton.
[fork] off
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 08:05 am
by Absolut
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 23:33 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:40 pm
Out of the trade deadline sale. Similar to getting Saggese and Roby for Montgomery and Stratton.
[fork] off
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 08:33 am
by Adam2
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
He alone could not bring back 2 "stud" or elite prospects since he is only under control for the remainder of this year
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 08:35 am
by ecleme22
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:40 pm
Out of the trade deadline sale. Similar to getting Saggese and Roby for Montgomery and Stratton.
Is Saggese a power hitter?
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 08:37 am
by rockondlouie
ClassicO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:42 pm
Has anyone tried fried dill pickle slices?
I like the deep fried Milky Way bars!
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 09:14 am
by ClassicO
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:44 pm
ClassicO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:36 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:45 pm
ClassicO wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:42 pm
Has anyone tried fried dill pickle slices?
Why the nonsense? This is a timely Cardinals baseball topic. Obviously, you don't feel the need to discuss baseball. Just go away.
MY nonsense? Look in the mirror. These types of responses mean 'don't pay attention to the troll!'
Because you're like a cocaine addict on a bachelor trip = won't shut up - ever - and won't stop talking stupid.
Your topic is like saying, "I want world peace." It's fluff. It's impossible. And it's just words without any reasonable explanation as to how.
Get a stud pitcher and power hitter!! Oh, okay. Provide a reasonable explanation as to how -- or you are the bachelor trip dude?
This is a Cardinals baseball discussion message board. Go somewhere else if it bothers you to see other posters having baseball discussion.
I identified Helsley as being a prime chip that could get at least one of the objectives I suggested.Quit trying to cause trouble. Go away. You won't be missed.
Wow. You identified Helsley as a trade chip. Sheer genius.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 09:17 am
by Cranny
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?
Stay tuned. Some team just might be really starved for a deep playoffs run.
Probably best for you to stand down for a while, Shady.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 09:27 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Reasonable OP.
The plan was to rid /sell Goldie Mik and Matz. One happened. The plan is still to sell Mik and Matz. Both will bring a nice prospect under blooms guys.
Then, off season add one big bat. Left or third. Play. Off season 2026 add TOR starter. League level.
2027- power house.
Patience men.
Re: Mo needs to get a stud pitching and power hitting prospect
Posted: 17 Jun 2025 09:32 am
by Adam2
Cranny wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 09:17 am
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 22:56 pm
Shady wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:59 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑16 Jun 2025 21:49 pm
I would classify a “stud” as an “elite” prospect.
Now.....who are going to give up to get BOTH of those prospects???
Helsley could get both with the right trading partner in need of a closer to make a deep run.
Possibly but doubtful as Helsley is a pending FA and I doubt any team gives up that much under the circumstances?
Stay tuned. Some team just might be really starved for a deep playoffs run.
Probably best for you to stand down for a while, Shady.
Agreed, just a breather to gather and re-group