britishblue wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 03:02 am
Ideal would be 2×5m.
I could see them going 3×5m.
Bring Faksa back on a 2 year deal at max 2.5m per, dump Texier/Joseph.
Buch Thomas Snuggy
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Bolduc Granlund Neighbours
Walker/Faksa/Toro/Sunny/****
**** = Texier/Joseph/Dvorsky (likely starts in Springfield) or somebody like Kaskimaki makes a push.
Pretty crowded forward group mind.
If the Blues sign a 2or3Center chances for Faksa coming back would be limited I would guess. SunnyD and Faksa are a bit redundant. Faksa is way better on the dot. So maybe you could slow the 4th line down and bounce him out to a wing? But then you would have Torpedo and walker who are trying to play fast. I dunno.
Anyways, You would hope they find a space for the kid Dvorsky to have a somewhat reasonable time getting up to the big leagues. If I'm the Blues, I look around to see who I can trade with if there's a willing partner, and you have to ship off 1 of texier or Joseph in the trade so there's a clear pathway for Dvorsky to make a run at 3rd line winger. To me Joseph/Torpedo on your 4th line wings could actually be a terror. There's speed there with size and just enough skill. Walker rotates in.
britishblue wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 03:02 am
Ideal would be 2×5m.
I could see them going 3×5m.
Bring Faksa back on a 2 year deal at max 2.5m per, dump Texier/Joseph.
Buch Thomas Snuggy
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Bolduc Granlund Neighbours
Walker/Faksa/Toro/Sunny/****
**** = Texier/Joseph/Dvorsky (likely starts in Springfield) or somebody like Kaskimaki makes a push.
Pretty crowded forward group mind.
If the Blues sign a 2or3Center chances for Faksa coming back would be limited I would guess. SunnyD and Faksa are a bit redundant. Faksa is way better on the dot. So maybe you could slow the 4th line down and bounce him out to a wing? But then you would have Torpedo and walker who are trying to play fast. I dunno.
Anyways, You would hope they find a space for the kid Dvorsky to have a somewhat reasonable time getting up to the big leagues. If I'm the Blues, I look around to see who I can trade with if there's a willing partner, and you have to ship off 1 of texier or Joseph in the trade so there's a clear pathway for Dvorsky to make a run at 3rd line winger. To me Joseph/Torpedo on your 4th line wings could actually be a terror. There's speed there with size and just enough skill. Walker rotates in.
There is no clear pathway for Dvorsky at top 9 wing whether you move Texier and Joseph or not nor should there be, injuries will happen and that will be his opportunity.
Buch
Snugg
Kyrou
Holloway
Neighbours
Bolduc
Thats your top 9 wingers
I think Faksa should be brought back if the price is right regardless of 3c acquisitions and Walker/Sunny/Toro are fighting for the 2 4th line wing spots.
britishblue wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 03:02 am
Ideal would be 2×5m.
I could see them going 3×5m.
Bring Faksa back on a 2 year deal at max 2.5m per, dump Texier/Joseph.
Buch Thomas Snuggy
Holloway Schenn Kyrou
Bolduc Granlund Neighbours
Walker/Faksa/Toro/Sunny/****
**** = Texier/Joseph/Dvorsky (likely starts in Springfield) or somebody like Kaskimaki makes a push.
Pretty crowded forward group mind.
If the Blues sign a 2or3Center chances for Faksa coming back would be limited I would guess. SunnyD and Faksa are a bit redundant. Faksa is way better on the dot. So maybe you could slow the 4th line down and bounce him out to a wing? But then you would have Torpedo and walker who are trying to play fast. I dunno.
Anyways, You would hope they find a space for the kid Dvorsky to have a somewhat reasonable time getting up to the big leagues. If I'm the Blues, I look around to see who I can trade with if there's a willing partner, and you have to ship off 1 of texier or Joseph in the trade so there's a clear pathway for Dvorsky to make a run at 3rd line winger. To me Joseph/Torpedo on your 4th line wings could actually be a terror. There's speed there with size and just enough skill. Walker rotates in.
There is no clear pathway for Dvorsky at top 9 wing whether you move Texier and Joseph or not nor should there be, injuries will happen and that will be his opportunity.
Buch
Snugg
Kyrou
Holloway
Neighbours
Bolduc
Thats your top 9 wingers
I think Faksa should be brought back if the price is right regardless of 3c acquisitions and Walker/Sunny/Toro are fighting for the 2 4th line wing spots.
O I didn't mean at the start of the season, I meant so there aren't any "road blocks" for like what you said if there is an injury or whatever opportunity to where the call up can happen. Eventually if the team is going to be really good, our 4th line is going to be more talented than it is grit based like it is right now. You have Texier/Joseph/SunnyD/Walker/Torpedo all coming off the books and no RFA status as of next year. I only see the Blues bringing back probably Torpedo and then Sunny as a culture person. Torpedo paired with a more skillful player on the wing could lend itself to some fun results. Schenns future 3rd line with Neighbours is going to be the heavy hitters.
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
Going by Strickland comments in past Hockey Senses it seems unlikely that Faksa will be back.
do you have a time stamp on that? tried to pull the transcript and didn't see anything saying Faksa. I would imagine Faksa coming back is a tough one to pull off. He would have to take a contract at around 2.5m. Anything more is just replaceable by what Sunny does since Sunny is so much cheaper. That money is better used elsewhere. But if he takes a cheaper deal, then running it back is possible.
IF a player like Granlund or Granlund... is signed maybe they take a hard look at Dean to be the 4th center. Granted, today, that seems like a stretch but if the top 3 centers are Thomas, Schenn, Granlund then perhaps the Blues have a little wiggle room to figure out the last center spot as the year goes on. Combo of Sunny/Dean wouldnt be awful
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
Going by Strickland comments in past Hockey Senses it seems unlikely that Faksa will be back.
do you have a time stamp on that? tried to pull the transcript and didn't see anything saying Faksa. I would imagine Faksa coming back is a tough one to pull off. He would have to take a contract at around 2.5m. Anything more is just replaceable by what Sunny does since Sunny is so much cheaper. That money is better used elsewhere. But if he takes a cheaper deal, then running it back is possible.
It was shortly after the Blues were eliminated. However, Strickland sounded less definite about that in the last 2 episodes. But yeah, he tied it to Sunny. If Sunny stays, he can't see having both Faksa and Sunny as your bottom 6 centers due to such limited offense. Maybe they can move on from Sunny. I'd be in favor of that. And then, sure, Faksa as your 4th line center wouldn't be bad at all.
The other thing he mentioned is the question of whether you entertain moving Schenn again like they did at the trade deadline this year. Would Schenn be more open to being traded now? Who knows.
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
Going by Strickland comments in past Hockey Senses it seems unlikely that Faksa will be back.
do you have a time stamp on that? tried to pull the transcript and didn't see anything saying Faksa. I would imagine Faksa coming back is a tough one to pull off. He would have to take a contract at around 2.5m. Anything more is just replaceable by what Sunny does since Sunny is so much cheaper. That money is better used elsewhere. But if he takes a cheaper deal, then running it back is possible.
It was shortly after the Blues were eliminated. However, Strickland sounded less definite about that in the last 2 episodes. But yeah, he tied it to Sunny. If Sunny stays, he can't see having both Faksa and Sunny as your bottom 6 centers due to such limited offense. Maybe they can move on from Sunny. I'd be in favor of that. And then, sure, Faksa as your 4th line center wouldn't be bad at all.
The other thing he mentioned is the question of whether you entertain moving Schenn again like they did at the trade deadline this year. Would Schenn be more open to being traded now? Who knows.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that we should have Sunny and Faksa as the 3C and 4C again. But Sunny could be in a 4th line wing rotation if you sign Faksa and a Top 9 center. That probably requires moving Texier or Joseph, but I doubt the Blues are too high on those guys at this point.
b-a-a-a-rclay wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 13:58 pm
Going by Strickland comments in past Hockey Senses it seems unlikely that Faksa will be back.
do you have a time stamp on that? tried to pull the transcript and didn't see anything saying Faksa. I would imagine Faksa coming back is a tough one to pull off. He would have to take a contract at around 2.5m. Anything more is just replaceable by what Sunny does since Sunny is so much cheaper. That money is better used elsewhere. But if he takes a cheaper deal, then running it back is possible.
It was shortly after the Blues were eliminated. However, Strickland sounded less definite about that in the last 2 episodes. But yeah, he tied it to Sunny. If Sunny stays, he can't see having both Faksa and Sunny as your bottom 6 centers due to such limited offense. Maybe they can move on from Sunny. I'd be in favor of that. And then, sure, Faksa as your 4th line center wouldn't be bad at all.
The other thing he mentioned is the question of whether you entertain moving Schenn again like they did at the trade deadline this year. Would Schenn be more open to being traded now? Who knows.
ahh I've been trying to pay close enough attention to the Blues as I can. There really hasn't been much coming out of their camp. I'm pretty sure that's deliberate. July 1 they can start getting guys signed and they have to see what guys like Broberg and Hollywood are going to do in my honest opinion to be able to dictate where their market hand can be played. THere are players like Marner who want those 4 year contracts so they can keep betting on themselves and maximizing contracts, and there are guys like Thomas and Kyrou who will just take the bag and extend it on the max. I think we have to figure out who they will be. I'd be willing to bet that Broberg and Holloway sign an extension because they were (upset) at the Oil for not just throwing them that bridge deal. The Blues gave them more than what they expected and the players have said those guys are happy and the team loves them. The question will just be if they will take that in between deal that will be 7-8 million. Or are they going to take like a 4 or 5 year by 6m deal and then try to cash in later.
Army said he wasn't opposed to bringing Faksa back. Seems to me he would have signed already if Armstrong's offer was enough to keep him from testing the waters. If they spend too much on 3C they may not be able to afford what it will take to sign him as 4C, and it goes to Sunny or maybe Dean.
leedog68 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025 16:39 pm
Army said he wasn't opposed to bringing Faksa back. Seems to me he would have signed already if Armstrong's offer was enough to keep him from testing the waters. If they spend too much on 3C they may not be able to afford what it will take to sign him as 4C, and it goes to Sunny or maybe Dean.
Yes, probably very difficult to agree on a number without testing the market first.
This year especially, I'd say almost all agents are advising waiting for the coming market correction to sign anything.
