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Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:35 am
by nighthawk
hmoss859 wrote: 16 Jun 2025 08:27 am I expect better effort and execution from Major League hitters.

Put the ball in play.
The Cards have the third highest percentage of balls put in play. They are tied with three other teams at 67%. Kansas City leads the majors at 72% with the Padres and Blue Jays tied for second at 69%. The league average is 65%

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:42 am
by rockondlouie
It does seem Cardinals hitters (other than I. Hererra, Donny and WillyC) watch more "meatballs" right down the middle of the plate instead of ripping at them.

The reality may be that the majority of our hitters just aren't good hitters.

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:45 am
by Goldfan
Is it stupid coach or stupid hitter….the stat line is next to the PLAYERS name

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:45 am
by ClassicO
nighthawk wrote:
Baseball Savant wrote: 15 Jun 2025 20:19 pm Cardinals do it more than any team in baseball

What a horrible hitting philosophy
The Cards have taken a third strike looking 133 times this year which is 18th lowest tied with two other teams. Pittsburgh has the most called third strikes with 175 followed by the Angels with 173. The league average is 139
Don’t confuse the hoard with facts! How dare you :D

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:48 am
by Adam2
Cranny wrote: 16 Jun 2025 08:29 am
Adam2 wrote: 16 Jun 2025 07:50 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Jun 2025 07:06 am
Adam2 wrote: 16 Jun 2025 06:17 am
Baseball Savant wrote: 15 Jun 2025 22:48 pm You never concede a grooved fastball with 2 strikes

Never
It's not conceding, he was fooled and was frozen. happens. It's not like he struck out on purpose
LoL. On CT they do think that
it's always people who haven't played at any decent level. when the guy is throwing 101 with an 82mph slider. You almost have to sit on one or the other. if you guess wrong you can't react to 101 while expecting 82. smh
Swing at anything close, no matter what kind of pitch it is.
case in point

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 08:52 am
by Basil Shabazz
They need to be coached to sit fastball and adjust off-speed versus looking off-speed.

You can not look off-speed and adjust to 100 MPH heat.

Waino was do ineffective the last few seasons because they could sit on his curveball and adjust to his very slow fastball

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 10:03 am
by ramfandan
Basil Shabazz wrote: 16 Jun 2025 08:52 am They need to be coached to sit fastball and adjust off-speed versus looking off-speed.

You can not look off-speed and adjust to 100 MPH heat.

Waino was do ineffective the last few seasons because they could sit on his curveball and adjust to his very slow fastball
What you need to know as a batter is what is that pitchers 'out pitch' as they call it . What does he throw a vast majority of the time to get a guy out for strike 3 ? He may be a 100 mph speed pitcher but that doesn't necessarily mean that he goes to fast ball on 2 strike pitch especially if he is ahead in the count .

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 10:06 am
by sikeston bulldog2
ramfandan wrote: 16 Jun 2025 10:03 am
Basil Shabazz wrote: 16 Jun 2025 08:52 am They need to be coached to sit fastball and adjust off-speed versus looking off-speed.

You can not look off-speed and adjust to 100 MPH heat.

Waino was do ineffective the last few seasons because they could sit on his curveball and adjust to his very slow fastball
What you need to know as a batter is what is that pitchers 'out pitch' as they call it . What does he throw a vast majority of the time to get a guy out for strike 3 ? He may be a 100 mph speed pitcher but that doesn't necessarily mean that he goes to fast ball on 2 strike pitch especially if he is ahead in the count .
All of us have played and never be of us could have hit that kid last night. Jeez. He struck out the side with second and third.

Maybe a better strategic approach would have been a better choice.

Re: Taking Fastballs down middle with 2 strikes

Posted: 16 Jun 2025 10:33 am
by DickyBennett
How bout put the ball in play

It’s that simple, none were up to task, they all wilted