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Posted: **15 Jun 2025 20:12 pm**

ramfandan wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 18:24 pm First the Nootbaar story ..
https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles ... 5_42331513

Then Donovan name dropped in this speculation story

https://climbingtalshill.com/5-realisti ... source=RSS

The article is (bleep). It says nothing about who we should get back for nootbaar, which should be the entire point of a trade.

Posted: **15 Jun 2025 20:15 pm**

redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 19:46 pm I wouldn't trade Donovan, but Noot may get a nice return. Gorman could play 2B and Donovan could move right into LF.

Which is exactly the scenario I advised last off-season.

Posted: **15 Jun 2025 20:22 pm**

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 20:09 pm
45s wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 19:54 pm Don’t get your hopes up my bfib friends……H scouts and knows what y’all know….nootbarr sux

Donovan is attractive and a good fit…but as another pointed out, the H system is weak

They have some promising young pitching, but with Framber walking this winter, they want to hold on to them

Good luck with Donovan…..he’s an attractive chip
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Posted: **15 Jun 2025 21:17 pm**

The author is dreaming about Donovan. Young, still under team control, very good player. He is the kind of player you build around, not the guy you trade away for prospects. He is what you want a prospect to become.

I don't see that happening.

Posted: **15 Jun 2025 22:21 pm**

ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 21:17 pm The author is dreaming about Donovan. Young, still under team control, very good player. He is the kind of player you build around, not the guy you trade away for prospects. He is what you want a prospect to become.

I don't see that happening.

Spot on. Donovan should be a centerpiece you build around. Does nothing but hit and willing to play anywhere. Exactly the kind of guy you want mentoring Wetherholt and others.

Erase Donovan from the trade speculation. They want a LH bat then add Burly to the conversation with Noot.

Posted: **15 Jun 2025 23:13 pm**

I saw a Astro podcast talk about a deal with Cards involving a left hand bat plus pitching to Astros for Cam Smith. Possibly including Arenado in a bigger deal. Didn’t offer much more detail. Again podcaster but Astros need a lh bat desperately.
Smith would be a good pickup as a rh hitting player that can play outfield and third base. Just 22 and hasn’t developed the power yet but has the size at 6’3” so not a little guy. Just drafted last year from college but holding his own in majors.

Posted: **16 Jun 2025 08:35 am**

No way I deal Donovan, I extend him by buying out his ARB years + two years of FA.

I was a huge Noot supporter, duped by his terrific metrics but I'm now on the "deal him" side of the debate too.

Posted: **16 Jun 2025 09:03 am**

Why deal either? But, especially Donovan...

There is a hope and a prayer that the Cards make the postseason, but it's still unlikely. They are also not primed for a WS run. This is a transition year, and it's going great, all things considered.

That being said, they must be focused on the future. Trading Noot and/or Donovan must be about getting a giant haul in return. I don't see that happening.

If they move the guys on expiring contracts, essentially punting away the 2025 season, I would understand that. Competing in 2025 isn't the #1 priority from a GM perspective. Do the best you can today, but 2025 is about long-term vision.

Posted: **16 Jun 2025 09:17 am**

ramfandan wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 18:24 pm First the Nootbaar story ..
https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles ... 5_42331513

Then Donovan name dropped in this speculation story

https://climbingtalshill.com/5-realisti ... source=RSS

Did you click through the links? That's not a rumor it's amateur speculation, based on literally just the writer's imagination.

Posted: **16 Jun 2025 09:20 am**

ramfandan wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 19:41 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 19:27 pm
Cusecards wrote: ↑15 Jun 2025 18:28 pm I can see solid reasoning behind the speculation in these articles.
I would keep Donovan and deal Noot unless the return for Donovan is an overpay.
Trading Donovan would hurt but if the cardinals want anything of value in return, they have to part ways with valuable players. His value is at an all time high. It would definitely be a tough pill to swallow. Hopefully the return would make it easier to stomach.
Well, in Boston the fans are very angry about the trade . I would venture to guess that the return for Donovan could be viewed the same way by Cardinal fans.

I don’t think Donovan is on devers level.

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