Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:14 pm
What's his power potential? Only 4 HRs in 198 ABs so far in AA.
Could he maybe get to 20 a year?
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Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:17 pm
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:46 pm
Of course it is he wasn’t going to continue to hit .400 or 390 he’s a .290 to .300 hitterscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:57 pmHerrera's hitting is regressinggreyhawk wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:52 pmi think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:27 pmI don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:03 pmLMAO...Herrera?! LMAOBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 13:02 pmI think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.ClassicO wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.
JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.
I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.
His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:46 pm
yes it currently is -- the league adjusted, part of being the hitter we hope him to be is adjusting to what the league thinks they have figured out.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:57 pmHerrera's hitting is regressinggreyhawk wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:52 pmi think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:27 pmI don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:03 pmLMAO...Herrera?! LMAOBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 13:02 pmI think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.ClassicO wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.
JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.
I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.
His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:49 pm
You think he forgot how?
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 15:52 pm
IMO,
JJ gets a shot by 2026.
NA is on the team through 2027 until proven otherwise.
BD might be the only .800 OPS guy, if you'd like to keep him beyond
his arb years why not let him nail down a spot that we keep waiting for an answer to?
Baez might be 2 years away. He can either take BD spot or fight it out with
VS, Walker, LN or whoever else for CF,RF and the 4th OFer.
To me there more infield options. Prieto is even an option compared to the OF options.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:37 pm
He's not an 800 OPS hitter eitherOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 15:46 pmOf course it is he wasn’t going to continue to hit .400 or 390 he’s a .290 to .300 hitterscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:57 pmHerrera's hitting is regressinggreyhawk wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:52 pmi think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:27 pmI don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:03 pmLMAO...Herrera?! LMAOBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 13:02 pmI think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.ClassicO wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.
JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.
I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.
His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:38 pm
Did I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:44 pm
I think 20-25 is about what to expect but he will routinely flirt with 200+ hitsvegascardsfan5890 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 15:17 pm What's his power potential? Only 4 HRs in 198 ABs so far in AA.
Could he maybe get to 20 a year?
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:46 pm
So do you think he forgot or not?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:38 pmDid I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
He can play 3 positions.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:50 pm
Not sure why you keep asking since I never made a claim that he "forgot."riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:46 pmSo do you think he forgot or not?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:38 pmDid I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
He can play 3 positions.
Note , he hasn't been playing there after 2022 in college or with the Cards.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:54 pm
Whatever, quit being stupid if that's possible.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:50 pmNot sure why you keep asking since I never made a claim that he "forgot."riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:46 pmSo do you think he forgot or not?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:38 pmDid I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
He can play 3 positions.
Note , he hasn't been playing there after 2022 in college or with the Cards.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:56 pm
Yes. Posting facts makes me the dumb one.riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:54 pmWhatever, quit being stupid if that's possible.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:50 pmNot sure why you keep asking since I never made a claim that he "forgot."riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:46 pmSo do you think he forgot or not?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:38 pmDid I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
He can play 3 positions.
Note , he hasn't been playing there after 2022 in college or with the Cards.
Got it.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 18:59 pm
Good, glad you got itscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:56 pmYes. Posting facts makes me the dumb one.riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:54 pmWhatever, quit being stupid if that's possible.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:50 pmNot sure why you keep asking since I never made a claim that he "forgot."riff raff wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:46 pmSo do you think he forgot or not?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:38 pmDid I say that? Why was he moved off of it in college? And with the Cards, why isn't he playing 3b?
He can play 3 positions.
Note , he hasn't been playing there after 2022 in college or with the Cards.
Got it.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 19:10 pm
He’s an .810 career OPS hitter in 474 plate appearancesscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 18:37 pmHe's not an 800 OPS hitter eitherOzziesfan41 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 15:46 pmOf course it is he wasn’t going to continue to hit .400 or 390 he’s a .290 to .300 hitterscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:57 pmHerrera's hitting is regressinggreyhawk wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:52 pmi think if Herrera continues to improve his hitting you find a place for him while Contreras is still here holding down 1b and you teach Krazy Ivan how to play 1b.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:27 pmI don’t care who it is, but someone has got to take charge of 3B when Nado leaves. Who do you suggest?scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 14:03 pmLMAO...Herrera?! LMAOBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 13:02 pmI think you’re right about JJ, O. I’m not sure where he’s going to play, though. Someone has got to step up and play 3B, assuming Arenado is traded by the time JJ gets here. Donnie is not a corner outfielder. Either, he or Gorman or Herrera or JJ has got to play 3B.ClassicO wrote: ↑13 Jun 2025 12:46 pm And his OBP last year was .405.
His college OBP for three years was .467.
I was excited when Donny was brought up because he had great OBPs, but they were 20-30 pts lower - with .386 in minors and .437 in college, and he’s still very high with a career MLB .366.
JJ is the consummate hitter. He has reduced the higher leg kick he had before; he goes opposite field a lot and with power; he has great pitch recognition; and, although his HR power isn’t great, but that will improve although he’s small and has such a level swing, I hope they don't mess with it. He’ll get a lot of doubles and some triples.
I’ve been watching him on MiLB (live and archive) and he is the real thing. I think he’s here next year earlier than later - and they’ll plan accordingly for 2b - which means no more Gorman there and Donny to the OF far more.
His swing is compact, very fast and incredibly level. My complaint early on with Carslon was his soft and upper cut swing.
When you add his very good speed, defense and versatility, there’s not much to see holding him back.
Re: Wetherholt OBP is .439
Posted: 13 Jun 2025 19:12 pm
It seems to me that the best scenario would be JJ at 2B and Donovan moving to 3B. Gorman is the wild card. Is he an everyday player or just a LH bat with a lot of swing and miss in his game. If Gorman is legit, he plays 3B and Donovan moves to the outfield but could still move around the diamond to help out.
Gorman just needs to play everyday so we can know what he is. I think he’s just a LH bat with a lot of swing and miss but we don’t know that. All of this discussion is dependent on what we have in Walker and Gorman. These two change the whole discussion about this team.
Gorman just needs to play everyday so we can know what he is. I think he’s just a LH bat with a lot of swing and miss but we don’t know that. All of this discussion is dependent on what we have in Walker and Gorman. These two change the whole discussion about this team.