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Re: Cardinals are in the Same Position as Last Year
Posted: 11 Jun 2025 11:50 am
by MLSIsHere!
ClassicO wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 22:33 pm
gpeeps22 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 22:26 pm
It feels like the team is a lot better in 2025 than they were in 2024
However on June 10, 2024, cardinals were 31-33 and 6 games out of first
This year, 36-31 and 5 games out of first.
Made no progress
Wrong.
They said they’d reset this year, which is progress.
And they have reset in many ways by playing the kids even when the long runway has been painful with Walker, Gorman, Scott and Libby.
They have starters they knew were likely a problem but hopefully they will make the trades that must happen (Miles, Matz, Fedde and Helsley).
The offense is much better than last year and you can fix pitching via the minors and FA.
The promise with all the people that had their hopes up when they should not have.
They are better than last year but in what way can the pitching be so easily fixed? Using the last two games as examples, the offense was able to come back from 3+ run deficits only to have the pitching allow runs in the next inning, killing the momentum that had been established. There hasn't been a reliever from AAA who has been brought up and effective at the MLB level. Helsley has taken a big step backwards in 2025.
As for the starters Gray has been excellent and Libby generally so but his last two starts and fatigue from his last one are concerning. Mikolas should have been released after last year and Pallante and Fedde are inconsistent at best. None of strikes me as an easy fix.
Re: Cardinals are in the Same Position as Last Year
Posted: 11 Jun 2025 12:00 pm
by Clubmaker2
But his season is about 2026, so what do you have? So the team has better results with some guys who have been anchors sinking the team, MM, SM playing better in contract year. Ad Fedde to departure list I guess. Well, thats fools gold to apply it to next year. Still need for 2026, 2 good starters, probably a catcher to catch, maybe an outfielder, how many relievers? So, good news, bad news.... Why will next years team perform better than this years team? or even the same? That is the position of importance.
Re: Cardinals are in the Same Position as Last Year
Posted: 11 Jun 2025 14:18 pm
by BMoreCardsFan
This is the best team we've had in 3 seasons. More consistent offense than 23, better pitching than 24, how is that not progress?
Re: Cardinals are in the Same Position as Last Year
Posted: 11 Jun 2025 17:19 pm
by ClassicO
MLSIsHere! wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025 11:50 am
ClassicO wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 22:33 pm
gpeeps22 wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025 22:26 pm
It feels like the team is a lot better in 2025 than they were in 2024
However on June 10, 2024, cardinals were 31-33 and 6 games out of first
This year, 36-31 and 5 games out of first.
Made no progress
Wrong.
They said they’d reset this year, which is progress.
And they have reset in many ways by playing the kids even when the long runway has been painful with Walker, Gorman, Scott and Libby.
They have starters they knew were likely a problem but hopefully they will make the trades that must happen (Miles, Matz, Fedde and Helsley).
The offense is much better than last year and you can fix pitching via the minors and FA.
The promise with all the people that had their hopes up when they should not have.
They are better than last year but in what way can the pitching be so easily fixed? Using the last two games as examples, the offense was able to come back from 3+ run deficits only to have the pitching allow runs in the next inning, killing the momentum that had been established. There hasn't been a reliever from AAA who has been brought up and effective at the MLB level. Helsley has taken a big step backwards in 2025.
As for the starters Gray has been excellent and Libby generally so but his last two starts and fatigue from his last one are concerning. Mikolas should have been released after last year and Pallante and Fedde are inconsistent at best. None of strikes me as an easy fix.
I didn’t say it was an easy fix. I said you CAN fix it through your free agency (see link of next year’s FAs) and the minors (with McGreevy, Matthews, Roby, Graceffo, Hence, Granillo and others).
They have to make moves with pitching because they’ll lose the four FAs - so they need to trade as many as possible for a chance of something.
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents ... osition/sp