When managing matters most Oli is awful

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Re: When managing matters most Oli is awful

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:52 pm
Cusecards wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:48 pm I can’t think of one positive quality that Oli has????
He's not you :lol:
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Colotiger wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm With Nootbar so cold, why wasn’t he bunting to get the runner to third?
Exactly. Victor scores from 3rd on most any ball in play.
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Bob Kunush wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:56 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:52 pm
Cusecards wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:48 pm I can’t think of one positive quality that Oli has????
He's not you :lol:
Oh nooooo.....now I’ve stirred up the whole tribe!
Just got to respond to the cult!
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Re: When managing matters most Oli is awful

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The only cult is the fools that actually think Oli bring something to the table……… I thought this was a year to find out what these guys could do? Gorman just had a big hit Saturday.……… So you show confidence in him by PH for him tonight? Its one of many reasons why we don’t develop young players.
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Re: When managing matters most Oli is awful

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MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:07 pm
Bob Kunush wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:56 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:52 pm
Cusecards wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:48 pm I can’t think of one positive quality that Oli has????
He's not you :lol:
Oh nooooo.....now I’ve stirred up the whole tribe!
Just got to respond to the cult!
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Re: When managing matters most Oli is awful

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I didn't care for the Gorman pinch hitting situation but far worse was removing Herrera from behind the plate after his homerun with only a one run lead. I was thinking of the possibility of the Jays tying the game and his spot coming up later in the game. Nothing like taking out your best hitter in a one run game!
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:55 pm
Colotiger wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm With Nootbar so cold, why wasn’t he bunting to get the runner to third?
Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, have you seen how poorly the Cards are at bunting?!

Not just the Cards. It has become endemic throughout the league.

I suppose a broken hand or finger makes it a very expensive gamble. And guys throwing more heat more often. Maybe it makes it a bit tougher than it has always looked from the couch.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:55 pm
Colotiger wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm With Nootbar so cold, why wasn’t he bunting to get the runner to third?
Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick, have you seen how poorly the Cards are at bunting?!
And who is responsible for having these players knowing how to bunt? I’ve said many times since they put in the ghost runner, the first two days of spring training and every time there is batting practice, every player will practice bunting until they can do it in their sleep. No excuses EVERY PLAYER!!! Then use it when it is called for.
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Re: When managing matters most Oli is awful

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Futuregm2 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:45 pm
Bob Kunush wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:43 pm
Web7 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:36 pm What is our extra innings record?
Its not good but Oli wasn't the closer who blew the game or the hitters in the last two innings who screwed up, including the top of the order who stunk it up in the 10th. Oli did not lose this game.
He did pinch hit Gorman for no reason, that didn’t help. I’d rather have Gorman than Vilade no matter whether they are facing a LHP or RHP. Vilade ended up going 0 for 2 with 2 K’s.
Seems like he has something against Gorman. I can see pinch hitting for him with a decent RH hitter but Vilade come on. Vilade shouldn't even be on the team let alone pinch hitting.
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Colotiger wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm With Nootbar so cold, why wasn’t he bunting to get the runner to third?
Good point.
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Bob Kunush wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:46 pm The Vilade substitution was fireable
No it wasn't. I didnt agree with it and I wouldn't have done it but it's not fireable. But then everything he does is fireable to the anti Oli cult.
Ol Bobby boy running to oli's defense again. :lol:
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Baseball Savant wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:46 pm The Vilade substitution was fireable
^^^^^^^^^^
Absolutely maddening
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Bob Kunush wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:54 pm
Baseball Savant wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:46 pm The Vilade substitution was fireable
No it wasn't. I didnt agree with it and I wouldn't have done it but it's not fireable. But then everything he does is fireable to the anti Oli cult.
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janb526 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:20 pm I didn't care for the Gorman pinch hitting situation but far worse was removing Herrera from behind the plate after his homerun with only a one run lead. I was thinking of the possibility of the Jays tying the game and his spot coming up later in the game. Nothing like taking out your best hitter in a one run game!
Removing Herrera for better defense was no issue fir me.
He hit the homer with 2 outs. Only one player batted after him . The lineup had to go thru 7 more batters for chance to have him come up again. With 1 inning left, odds slim even if Jays tie his spot comes up again.

If the homer came in 7th , , he stays in game but in 8th where only one Cardinal batted after him far different.

Thought the move was alright.
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janb526 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:20 pm I didn't care for the Gorman pinch hitting situation but far worse was removing Herrera from behind the plate after his homerun with only a one run lead. I was thinking of the possibility of the Jays tying the game and his spot coming up later in the game. Nothing like taking out your best hitter in a one run game!
He HAS to remove Herrera from behind the plate for 1 inning in a 1 run game. Any walk, HBP, or single instantly becomes a double, if not triple either IH behind the plate.
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ramfandan wrote: 10 Jun 2025 07:31 am
janb526 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:20 pm I didn't care for the Gorman pinch hitting situation but far worse was removing Herrera from behind the plate after his homerun with only a one run lead. I was thinking of the possibility of the Jays tying the game and his spot coming up later in the game. Nothing like taking out your best hitter in a one run game!
Removing Herrera for better defense was no issue fir me.
He hit the homer with 2 outs. Only one player batted after him . The lineup had to go thru 7 more batters for chance to have him come up again. With 1 inning left, odds slim even if Jays tie his spot comes up again.

If the homer came in 7th , , he stays in game but in 8th where only one Cardinal batted after him far different.

Thought the move was alright.
No way I am removing Herrera's bat from the lineup in a 1 run game. We act as if Herrera is the worst defensive catcher in the history of baseball. He is inadequate in the throwing department... that's it! Pages has struggled blocking balls lately; he is not perfect at all. It didn't come back to matter because Herrera never came back up, but if the bottom of the 10th had been managed properly, he could have.
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