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Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 22:49 pm
by Melville
sdaltons wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:40 pm Mootbat. I'm going with it.
Mootbaar

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 22:52 pm
by Melville
Baseball Savant wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:45 pm A tease and ultimately a fraud
Lars The Human Sushi-baar.
Trendy, but nor much there.
Always leaves you with an empty feeling, wishing you had chosen something with more substance.
Perfect branding.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 22:59 pm
by Kentucky kid
The most overrated player on this team.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
by Decker57
Gritty wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:17 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:40 pm Not the long term answer.
I've said it a dozen times, he's a 4th outfielder. If we traded him they'd be so much better off.
Agree he is a 4th outfielder on a really good team. He needs to sit a couple games and then when he returns he should start off in the 7th or 8th spot

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:20 pm
by sdaltons
Melville wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:40 pm Mootbat. I'm going with it.
Mootbaar
Nope. Lars' Mootbat. Love it.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:23 pm
by JohnnyMO
Decker57 wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:04 pm
Gritty wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:17 pm
Cranny wrote: 09 Jun 2025 21:40 pm Not the long term answer.
I've said it a dozen times, he's a 4th outfielder. If we traded him they'd be so much better off.
Agree he is a 4th outfielder on a really good team. He needs to sit a couple games and then when he returns he should start off in the 7th or 8th spot
Would love to see what this would like for a week or two.

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Donovan lf
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Herrera dh
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Noot rf
Gorman 2b
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Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:24 pm
by 11WSChamps
Got off to a good start but is fading badly of late.

He's a nice ancillary piece to have but the ballclub has to move forward in getting real production from its corner OF spots.

Donovan really isn't the answer in LF going forward when looking for a spot for JJ and or Gorman/Saggese and there's nothing on the horizon in the minors.

This has been an issue for years..haven't had a homegrown mainstay in the corner spots since Alan Craig for Christ sake and how long ago was that. The brief time with the acquisition of Ozuna several years ago.

For goodness sakes go out and buy a corner OF bat for 2026 and beyond.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 09 Jun 2025 23:41 pm
by JuanAgosto
Nootbaar will be in StL at least until free agency. No way DeWitt lets go of a cheap contract.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 05:39 am
by Honky Tonk Man
Noot is not a very good player, should probably be in AAA along with Walker and Gorman.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 06:20 am
by 3dender
For someone with as good of tools and plate approach as Noot has, he goes weirdly cold for unexpectedly long stretches.

Like how does someone who hits the ball that hard, doesn't whiff that much, and has great pitch identification have a .665 OPS in May and a .536 OPS already in June? And a career low .145 ISO while a career high EV (91.9mph, the 84th percentile in all of baseball)?

I don't think I've ever seen a single player who has so inexplicably failed to add up to the sum of all his tools like Nootbaar so far in his career. This is not me saying I think it'll never happen, but it's truly bizarre that it hasn't happened yet. It makes me wonder if there's some unidentified factor that is preventing that fulfillment of potential

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:10 am
by Melville
sdaltons wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:20 pm
Melville wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:49 pm
sdaltons wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:40 pm Mootbat. I'm going with it.
Mootbaar
Nope. Lars' Mootbat. Love it.
It is certainly a relevant bow to my original perfect branding.
His bat is certainly Moot to the team's needs now and in the future - as I was first to analyze and explain to all for the past several years.
Should have been traded when I alone advised.
My advice to all now?
Keep reading.
Keep learning.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:14 am
by Melville
3dender wrote: 10 Jun 2025 06:20 am For someone with as good of tools and plate approach as Noot has, he goes weirdly cold for unexpectedly long stretches.

Like how does someone who hits the ball that hard, doesn't whiff that much, and has great pitch identification have a .665 OPS in May and a .536 OPS already in June? And a career low .145 ISO while a career high EV (91.9mph, the 84th percentile in all of baseball)?

I don't think I've ever seen a single player who has so inexplicably failed to add up to the sum of all his tools like Nootbaar so far in his career. This is not me saying I think it'll never happen, but it's truly bizarre that it hasn't happened yet. It makes me wonder if there's some unidentified factor that is preventing that fulfillment of potential
As I warned everyone, you simply fell for the propaganda campaign.
Having explained perfectly throughout his MLB years, I will repeat it again:
Lars The Human Sushi-baar will never be more than what he has always been.
A handy 4th outfield platoon player - but never a core lineup piece with any top tier contending team.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:19 am
by Melville
JuanAgosto wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:41 pm Nootbaar will be in StL at least until free agency. No way DeWitt lets go of a cheap contract.
Mootbaar will be gone only when the Cardinals Marketing Company concludes his usefulness as a campaign piece has expired.
He was never more than an attempt to make him a temporary value add - particularly in the highly lucrative Asian market as a result of the WBC (as both he and the team have admitted).
His primary role was never on the field and the promoting him had nothing to do with baseball.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:20 am
by Melville
11WSChamps wrote: 09 Jun 2025 23:24 pm Got off to a good start but is fading badly of late.

He's a nice ancillary piece to have but the ballclub has to move forward in getting real production from its corner OF spots.

Donovan really isn't the answer in LF going forward when looking for a spot for JJ and or Gorman/Saggese and there's nothing on the horizon in the minors.

This has been an issue for years..haven't had a homegrown mainstay in the corner spots since Alan Craig for Christ sake and how long ago was that. The brief time with the acquisition of Ozuna several years ago.

For goodness sakes go out and buy a corner OF bat for 2026 and beyond.
Good to see so many others arrive at where I have been rightly positioned for 3+ years.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:24 am
by Melville
Kentucky kid wrote: 09 Jun 2025 22:59 pm The most overrated player on this team.
Not by me, of course.
Ever.
Baseball, like all professional sports, rewards aggression and punishes passivity.
It was always foolishness for anyone to believe that a player whose primary skill and constant priority is the passive pursuit of passes.
Sure, a handy skill in some specific situations.
But a terrible foundation for a hitter's value proposition.
There is a reason the team is in the bottom 3 of first inning runs.

Re: Nootbat

Posted: 10 Jun 2025 08:31 am
by Cusecards
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CT for me serves two functions.
#1 is good baseball talk with stable posters.
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Thanks as always Sideshow!