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Re: If Marner really gets $14m from Anaheim...

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TheHighHat wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:32 pm Is Pat Verbeek as dumb as Kyle Dubas?
Marner at 14 would be a huge mistake unless they can trade Terry and his 7 per pronto.
If not, the Ducks would be paying out 21 per year for their top 2 soft RW'ers. Sound familiar?

Terry had one nice year and his agent turned that into a 7x7 contract. The Ducks are finding out he's a one dimensional soft 20 goal scorer. Coach Q is going to hate him and Zegras. What team would take on Terry at 5 years left at 7 per?

Colangelo looks like he might be a player (ideal big 3RW) and they still have Sennecke as a prime RW prospect.

Anaheim is also paying nearly 11 per year for old wingers Killorn and Vatrano.

Don't forget that McTavish is going to get a huge raise this summer while Carlsson & Gauthier will get theirs next summer.
Dostal is also going to get a nice raise this summer.

The Ducks are also going to need to rebuild their RHD next offseason which will cost a lot because of lack of supply and high demand.
Old warhorses Trouba & Gudas each only have 1 year left.

The Ducks appear set at LHD for a long time with Mintyukov, LaCombe, and Zellweger.
However, all 3 of those guys are going to get huge raises next summer.

The point is that perceived cap space can evaporate very quickly especially if you're not looking out on the horizon.

They need to find a sucker for Terry.
And now I read a story where Anaheim is seriously interested in trading for Kreider from the Rangers & taking on his whole salary. Won't take long to spend their cap space!
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Re: If Marner really gets $14m from Anaheim...

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stlblues1979 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 09:00 am
TheHighHat wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:32 pm Is Pat Verbeek as dumb as Kyle Dubas?
Marner at 14 would be a huge mistake unless they can trade Terry and his 7 per pronto.
If not, the Ducks would be paying out 21 per year for their top 2 soft RW'ers. Sound familiar?

Terry had one nice year and his agent turned that into a 7x7 contract. The Ducks are finding out he's a one dimensional soft 20 goal scorer. Coach Q is going to hate him and Zegras. What team would take on Terry at 5 years left at 7 per?

Colangelo looks like he might be a player (ideal big 3RW) and they still have Sennecke as a prime RW prospect.

Anaheim is also paying nearly 11 per year for old wingers Killorn and Vatrano.

Don't forget that McTavish is going to get a huge raise this summer while Carlsson & Gauthier will get theirs next summer.
Dostal is also going to get a nice raise this summer.

The Ducks are also going to need to rebuild their RHD next offseason which will cost a lot because of lack of supply and high demand.
Old warhorses Trouba & Gudas each only have 1 year left.

The Ducks appear set at LHD for a long time with Mintyukov, LaCombe, and Zellweger.
However, all 3 of those guys are going to get huge raises next summer.

The point is that perceived cap space can evaporate very quickly especially if you're not looking out on the horizon.

They need to find a sucker for Terry.
And now I read a story where Anaheim is seriously interested in trading for Kreider from the Rangers & taking on his whole salary. Won't take long to spend their cap space!
If I'm Anaheim that's the only move I make this off season. Someone to help lead them, but doesn't take away time from their development.
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Evidently Kreider to Anaheim is picking up legs. One massive hurdle is Kreider would have to waive as Anaheim is on his no trade list.
Pierre LeBrun
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here who was first on this potential trade, Kreider needs to waive as Anaheim is on list of No teams. Discussions are continuing today in this potential deal.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:33 am Evidently Kreider to Anaheim is picking up legs. One massive hurdle is Kreider would have to waive as Anaheim is on his no trade list.
Pierre LeBrun
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Further to
@frank_seravalli
here who was first on this potential trade, Kreider needs to waive as Anaheim is on list of No teams. Discussions are continuing today in this potential deal.
Anaheim making it easy for the Rangers to clear cap space. Trouba last year & possibly Kreider this year. And with the cap increasing, makes you wonder what the Rangers' plans are.
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stlblues1979 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:40 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:33 am Evidently Kreider to Anaheim is picking up legs. One massive hurdle is Kreider would have to waive as Anaheim is on his no trade list.
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
·
2h
Further to
@frank_seravalli
here who was first on this potential trade, Kreider needs to waive as Anaheim is on list of No teams. Discussions are continuing today in this potential deal.
Anaheim making it easy for the Rangers to clear cap space. Trouba last year & possibly Kreider this year. And with the cap increasing, makes you wonder what the Rangers' plans are.
Wouldn't put it past them to make a serious effort for Marner. Possibly could also be clearing cap space for next off season if a very specific center doesn't re-sign with his current team.
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TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 12:10 pm
stlblues1979 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:40 am
TheJackBurton wrote: 11 Jun 2025 11:33 am Evidently Kreider to Anaheim is picking up legs. One massive hurdle is Kreider would have to waive as Anaheim is on his no trade list.
Pierre LeBrun
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·
2h
Further to
@frank_seravalli
here who was first on this potential trade, Kreider needs to waive as Anaheim is on list of No teams. Discussions are continuing today in this potential deal.
Anaheim making it easy for the Rangers to clear cap space. Trouba last year & possibly Kreider this year. And with the cap increasing, makes you wonder what the Rangers' plans are.
Wouldn't put it past them to make a serious effort for Marner. Possibly could also be clearing cap space for next off season if a very specific center doesn't re-sign with his current team.
Yep, I could see that!
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Re: If Marner really gets $14m from Anaheim...

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stlblues1979 wrote: 11 Jun 2025 09:00 am
TheHighHat wrote: 09 Jun 2025 18:32 pm Is Pat Verbeek as dumb as Kyle Dubas?
Marner at 14 would be a huge mistake unless they can trade Terry and his 7 per pronto.
If not, the Ducks would be paying out 21 per year for their top 2 soft RW'ers. Sound familiar?

Terry had one nice year and his agent turned that into a 7x7 contract. The Ducks are finding out he's a one dimensional soft 20 goal scorer. Coach Q is going to hate him and Zegras. What team would take on Terry at 5 years left at 7 per?

Colangelo looks like he might be a player (ideal big 3RW) and they still have Sennecke as a prime RW prospect.

Anaheim is also paying nearly 11 per year for old wingers Killorn and Vatrano.

Don't forget that McTavish is going to get a huge raise this summer while Carlsson & Gauthier will get theirs next summer.
Dostal is also going to get a nice raise this summer.

The Ducks are also going to need to rebuild their RHD next offseason which will cost a lot because of lack of supply and high demand.
Old warhorses Trouba & Gudas each only have 1 year left.

The Ducks appear set at LHD for a long time with Mintyukov, LaCombe, and Zellweger.
However, all 3 of those guys are going to get huge raises next summer.

The point is that perceived cap space can evaporate very quickly especially if you're not looking out on the horizon.

They need to find a sucker for Terry.
And now I read a story where Anaheim is seriously interested in trading for Kreider from the Rangers & taking on his whole salary. Won't take long to spend their cap space!
I'll give Verbeek the benefit of the doubt until he actually makes some trades.
I wonder how much influence Q will have in personnel decisions.

I don't see how the Ducks can take on another high priced washed up winger (Kreider) when they already have two (Killorn & Vatrano).
Verbeek already has the 7 or 8 guys I mentioned that have expiring entry level deals this summer or next that will cash in.
Most of those guys are his foundation.

As far as NY goes, I don't think Drury has a plan.

The trade for Miller was stupid; how many old washed up centers do you need?
There are a lot of teams desperate for center help but will one of them take on the term of one of the 3 Rangers centers to help bail out Drury?

Last year at this time most thought Lafreniere had arrived and was going to be a stud winger.
He was a disappointment. He is still young but what is his upside?

Their best forward (Panarin) is going to be 34 early into the new season and is in his walk year.
The aforementioned Kreider is 34 and is playing the last few holes of his career.

At least in theory the Rangers are set in goal and at RHD for the foreseeable future.
However, new coach Sullivan didn't seem too enamored with Fox at 4N to my eyes.
Before Sullivan took the job in NY I figured Fox wouldn't even make the Olympic team (replaced by S. Jones) but that may have changed.
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Re: If Marner really gets $14m from Anaheim...

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because numbers going to get crazy, you must be aggressive on the trade front, and get holloway and broberg their next multi year deals
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