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BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 11:54 am

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 11:47 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 11:46 am

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 11:27 am

BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 11:25 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:04 am Will we be the last team to have a player with 10+ HRs this season?

Hunter Goodman (Rockies) hit his 10th HR a few days ago, George Springer (Toronto) hit 2 over the weekend to get to 10 HRs, and Pasquantino (Royals) got to 10 HRs with a couple over the weekend as well.

That leaves us (Noot is our leader with 8 HRs) and the White Sox (Miguel Vargas leads with 9 HRs) as the only two teams in baseball without a 10+ HR player this season.

Dude, you just gave me flashbacks to the 70s and 80s (and no, I never did drugs). The Cardinals hit a MLB-worst 67 HRs in 1982 and won the World Series. They hit the fewest HRs of any team in the 1980s and won 3 pennants. On the other side of that same coin, they hit the fewest HRs of any team in the 1970s and didn't win nothin'. Whiteball was exciting; the 70s were not.

Herr driving in over 100 with less than 10 hrs

Tommy Herr was probably my favorite player of that era. What a gamer.

drove me nuts when they traded him.. and for what? a softball 'slugger' and to give oquendo playing time... ugh

And that comment brings this little side discussion back to the point of the thread. The Cards at the time were desperate to ge their HRs up, so they traded for Brunansky, which really didn't improve the WAR profile of the team. They figured out years later that to increase HRs they had to move the fences in and lower them. That paved the way for Big Mac.

it helped that the 'stadium' they played in was hitter friendly.. especially when they turned the fans on when the home team was at bat

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:29 am

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:19 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:10 am Perhaps unwittingly as it may be the Cardinals may show the metric nerds that putting the ball in play is a pretty good way to win games.

Individually the team has no one people are afraid to pitch too but collectively being able to put the ball in play and just as importantly catch the ball has them in a surprising position to this point.

Lot of season left to play but at least for now its a more entertaining way of watching the games.

someone gets it..

btw, where does this team rank in doubles? I'd rather have 4-5 guys hitting doubles than 1 or 2 hitting homers

We are 4th in doubles.

Out of 166 qualifying players
Donovan: T-3rd
Contreras: T-27th
Noot: T-53rd
Winn: T-69th
Nado: T-86th
VS2: T-120th

It is nice that we rank high in doubles, it is an area we have struggled with mostly for the last 10 years. But it would be nice to have a little more HR power, too. Of the 14 teams that rank above league average in runs scored, we are one of 3 teams that rank below league average in HRs. The other 2 are the Brewers and Phillies.

I asked Google and found out that the Cardinals in the last 10 years have ranked second or third in doubles in the NL several times since 2015. 2nd in 2019, 2015 and 2016 and 2021. 4th last year in NL. We have not struggled.

No real thumpers on the team--though I think Herrera could've been our 10+ homer guy if he didn't get hurt.

I'm not losing sleep about it. We've got guys who may not have a lot of power, but they're getting timely hits, and it seems like once we get the line moving, it moves for a while. I like that better. Especially since in the past it seemed like we couldn't score unless someone put one in the seats. I can't and won't argue with how we score our runs. Makes the game more exciting anyway.

That said, I'd like to add a home run threat.

thetank2 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 12:05 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:29 am

moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:19 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:10 am Perhaps unwittingly as it may be the Cardinals may show the metric nerds that putting the ball in play is a pretty good way to win games.

Individually the team has no one people are afraid to pitch too but collectively being able to put the ball in play and just as importantly catch the ball has them in a surprising position to this point.

Lot of season left to play but at least for now its a more entertaining way of watching the games.

someone gets it..

btw, where does this team rank in doubles? I'd rather have 4-5 guys hitting doubles than 1 or 2 hitting homers

We are 4th in doubles.

Out of 166 qualifying players
Donovan: T-3rd
Contreras: T-27th
Noot: T-53rd
Winn: T-69th
Nado: T-86th
VS2: T-120th

It is nice that we rank high in doubles, it is an area we have struggled with mostly for the last 10 years. But it would be nice to have a little more HR power, too. Of the 14 teams that rank above league average in runs scored, we are one of 3 teams that rank below league average in HRs. The other 2 are the Brewers and Phillies.

I asked Google and found out that the Cardinals in the last 10 years have ranked second or third in doubles in the NL several times since 2015. 2nd in 2019, 2015 and 2016 and 2021. 4th last year in NL. We have not struggled.

Google must be wrong because last year they were 11th in the NL in doubles.

And they were 3rd worst in 2019 in the NL.

60 year Cardinal fan wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:11 am

11WSChamps wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:10 am Perhaps unwittingly as it may be the Cardinals may show the metric nerds that putting the ball in play is a pretty good way to win games.

Individually the team has no one people are afraid to pitch too but collectively being able to put the ball in play and just as importantly catch the ball has them in a surprising position to this point.

Lot of season left to play but at least for now its a more entertaining way of watching the games.

Yes

Whitey once said about his team, "we don't hit many home runs, but give us 8-10 singles in a game and we'll entertain the hell out of you"

11WSChamps wrote: ↑09 Jun 2025 09:10 am Perhaps unwittingly as it may be the Cardinals may show the metric nerds that putting the ball in play is a pretty good way to win games.

Individually the team has no one people are afraid to pitch too but collectively being able to put the ball in play and just as importantly catch the ball has them in a surprising position to this point.

Lot of season left to play but at least for now its a more entertaining way of watching the games.

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