60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Jun 2025 11:50 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 Jun 2025 10:05 am Good morning.

No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.

Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.

Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.

I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.

The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.

Enjoy.
Where do they get the superstar power bat and TOR ace to reach the next level? Spending is the only answer
Either internal development, which never seems to happen, or spending. You’d think the shucking of contracts would precede the expected buy.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Youboughtit wrote: 06 Jun 2025 11:50 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 Jun 2025 10:05 am Good morning.

No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.

Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.

Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.

I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.

The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.

Enjoy.
Where do they get the superstar power bat and TOR ace to reach the next level? Spending is the only answer
They put on forced trades and trade Burleson for James Wood and Gorman for Tarik Skubal.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 06 Jun 2025 11:56 am
Youboughtit wrote: 06 Jun 2025 11:50 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 05 Jun 2025 10:05 am Good morning.

No longer a small sample size. 3/8 in, 38ish percent. And Scouty said no assessment could happen till 60 games in. Here we are.

Pitching- solid rotation. About 3-4 runs per game.
Defense- one of leagues best.
Offense. Middle of road. Can’t carry pitching. Not without Walker and Herrera.
Pen. Need 7/8 inning guy other than Matz. For competition purposes only.

Great position based on a perceived reset. Allows us to watch the young development and see winning baseball.

I look at the standings. We are a top 15 team in baseball. At this stage of reset. In a year or two, I see a power.

The alternative is a reset with losing baseball. I’ll take the former.

Enjoy.
Where do they get the superstar power bat and TOR ace to reach the next level? Spending is the only answer
Either internal development, which never seems to happen, or spending. You’d think the shucking of contracts would precede the expected buy.
They don’t develop power hitters since Albert ot Power pitchers since Gibson. Going to have to be trade or FA
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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About sixty five games in, and now two wins over LAD. Any thoughts. I said 81-81. They are certainly outperforming that.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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putting mcgreev in rotation is a good start and Pallante could be good piece in BP where he was good couple years ago. entertaining team which is more than most of us expected. One constant is outstanding D. Lets see how rest of season goes.
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hdhntr148 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 07:58 am putting mcgreev in rotation is a good start and Pallante could be good piece in BP where he was good couple years ago. entertaining team which is more than most of us expected. One constant is outstanding D. Lets see how rest of season goes.
The defense might be the best in baseball. The staff is over performing, but of course we will take it. Pallante pitches better at home. Hes my number five. Four runs five plus innings is a win if 3/4 of the remaining staff performs.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Cards are 22-14 vs teams above .500

2nd best in all of MLB
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:34 am Cards are 22-14 vs teams above .500

2nd best in all of MLB
You said 60 games. In your mind is this a post season team as is.
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:38 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:34 am Cards are 22-14 vs teams above .500

2nd best in all of MLB
You said 60 games. In your mind is this a post season team as is.
No. They aren't in the playoffs today if the season ended
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:45 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:38 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:34 am Cards are 22-14 vs teams above .500

2nd best in all of MLB
You said 60 games. In your mind is this a post season team as is.
No. They aren't in the playoffs today if the season ended
Thank you
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:47 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:45 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:38 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 08 Jun 2025 08:34 am Cards are 22-14 vs teams above .500

2nd best in all of MLB
You said 60 games. In your mind is this a post season team as is.
No. They aren't in the playoffs today if the season ended
Thank you
You're welcome
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Horseradish wrote: 05 Jun 2025 20:39 pm
hmoss859 wrote: 05 Jun 2025 17:05 pm Margin of error is small for this team.
Very true, but at least they’re showing some fight compared to the last few seasons, already a few comebacks and late-inning runs.
You spent more than a few comebacks brother. This team doesn’t quit, which along with its defense is probably the best quality.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Per MLB "Standings" stats the Cards are 19 - 14 vs .500 or above teams. Below .500 teams 17 - 14.

Road record is 14 - 18. IF going to contend need to improve that record to .500 or better especially with the upcoming Dubbies and Brewer series. . Mets, Dodgers, and Astro's all contenders are at or 1-2 games below .500 in road games.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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ilcubuffs wrote: 08 Jun 2025 11:38 am Per MLB "Standings" stats the Cards are 19 - 14 vs .500 or above teams. Below .500 teams 17 - 14.

Road record is 14 - 18. IF going to contend need to improve that record to .500 or better especially with the upcoming Dubbies and Brewer series. . Mets, Dodgers, and Astro's all contenders are at or 1-2 games below .500 in road games.
And that 19 -14 record vs teams >.500 is 2nd best in the NL!

Bolds well since all the playoff teams they may face, if they make it, are of course above .500.
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Re: 60 games in. No longer a small sample.

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Now we can add the LAD to our list. 60 plus games no small sample size and LAD.

Assess.
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Any more assessments.
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