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Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 19:16 pm
by Cusecards
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 18:54 pm
Shady wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 18:37 pm
Obviously, Burleson has under performed, overall. I like Contreras as a Cardinal. But he hasn't exactly "lit it up" either, overall.
As a Cardinal...Contreras:
2023 .826 OPS
2024 .848 OPS
why do continually compare these two? It just makes you look dumber than you already are (if that's possible).
In 2025 Contreras got off to the worst start of his career and still leads the team with 31 RBI while mashing 16 XBH's.
Since becoming a Cardinal in 2023, Contreras has a combined 6.6 fWAR. In that exact same time frame, your beloved Burly sits at 0.4.
You need to stop comparing them. It just shows your utter lack of baseball acumen.
His comments are all over the map.
If he is serious about “talking baseball” he needs to stop starting daily repetitive threads that fixate on the same few players.
Right now the obsession is with Burleson/Saggese/Roby.
Then stop talking around in circles.
Also...maybe comment more in threads started by others and not feeling forced to start threads?
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 19:31 pm
by NYCardsFan
Shady wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 18:37 pm
Obviously, Burleson has under performed, overall. I like Contreras as a Cardinal. But he hasn't exactly "lit it up" either, overall.
Everyone knows how this shtick goes: Burleson inevitably will hit a HR or two at some point, and Shady will quickly pivot back to saying Burleson should platoon with or replace Contreras, or be the full-time DH (even against LHP), etc.
It’s the same old thing over and over and over again. Just like his perennial “I’m going to take a break and make changes” routine. Wash, rinse, repeat.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 19:35 pm
by IndCard75
For me it’s probably easier to list who I wouldn’t trade-
Herrera
Donovan
Winn
Scott
Walker
Libby
Pallante
Minors
Matthews
McGreevy
Roby
JJW
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 20:42 pm
by Absolut
There is only one list, and you don’t want to be on it.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 01 Jun 2025 21:21 pm
by sdaltons
Well yeah, we lost, so trade them all.
Yesterday we won so if you had asked me then, not only should we keep them, we need to buy at the deadline.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 02 Jun 2025 04:46 am
by Monsieur De Treville
sdaltons wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 21:21 pm
Well yeah, we lost, so trade them all.
Yesterday we won so if you had asked me then, not only should we keep them, we need to buy at the deadline.
I think it's more....
1. We can't win on the road. 14-18.
2. We're 4 games back.
3. We scored what...4 runs in 3 games?
4. No faith in Oli.
Might be more than one game, yet either way, Cards will have some decisions to make by the trade deadline. Are they buyers, sellers, or a combination of both.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 02 Jun 2025 04:50 am
by 2ninr
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 16:18 pm
bretto12 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
Why would you trade Burly
. Plays multiple positions and last I looked was hitti.g in the .280s
Are you kidding? Yeah, he can play the corner OF & first base. But he doesn't play them well. He can't run....one of the slower players in MLB.
Now...about hitting in the .280's. Well, okay...he's hitting .279. But it's a soft .279 as evidenced by his .403 SLG%. Thats not good when hitting and running slow is all you can do. He has 11 XBH's & 16 RBI all season.
I'd love to trade him, but come on...who needs a player like this?
Pirates Rockies WhiteSox A's Angels
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 02 Jun 2025 06:53 am
by JDW
2ninr wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025 04:50 am
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 16:18 pm
bretto12 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
Why would you trade Burly
. Plays multiple positions and last I looked was hitti.g in the .280s
Are you kidding? Yeah, he can play the corner OF & first base. But he doesn't play them well. He can't run....one of the slower players in MLB.
Now...about hitting in the .280's. Well, okay...he's hitting .279. But it's a soft .279 as evidenced by his .403 SLG%. Thats not good when hitting and running slow is all you can do. He has 11 XBH's & 16 RBI all season.
I'd love to trade him, but come on...who needs a player like this?
Pirates Rockies WhiteSox A's Angels
So could Burly with half of his games at altitude hit +.800 OPS at home and around .700 on the road to be an all around decent hitter for the Rockies, possibly as a 1B for the Rockies? I think it's very possible he could, and looking at their current very weak offense be a MOTOB for them.
If the Cards could target a Rockies P as an example that a change of altitude could be a much better potential P than his current stats, maybe a win win trade could be formulated.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 02 Jun 2025 07:57 am
by 2ninr
JDW wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025 06:53 am
2ninr wrote: ↑02 Jun 2025 04:50 am
Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 16:18 pm
bretto12 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 14:26 pm
Why would you trade Burly
. Plays multiple positions and last I looked was hitti.g in the .280s
Are you kidding? Yeah, he can play the corner OF & first base. But he doesn't play them well. He can't run....one of the slower players in MLB.
Now...about hitting in the .280's. Well, okay...he's hitting .279. But it's a soft .279 as evidenced by his .403 SLG%. Thats not good when hitting and running slow is all you can do. He has 11 XBH's & 16 RBI all season.
I'd love to trade him, but come on...who needs a player like this?
Pirates Rockies WhiteSox A's Angels
So could Burly with half of his games at altitude hit +.800 OPS at home and around .700 on the road to be an all around decent hitter for the Rockies, possibly as a 1B for the Rockies? I think it's very possible he could, and looking at their current very weak offense be a MOTOB for them.
If the Cards could target a Rockies P as an example that a change of altitude could be a much better potential P than his current stats, maybe a win win trade could be formulated.
Great thought. A lot of the balls he hits that are caught are doubles and homeruns in Denver. His bat to ball skills are undeniable against right handed pitching.
Re: Should Burly, Gorman, Fedde or Mikolas be added to this list?
Posted: 02 Jun 2025 09:49 am
by Shady
IndCard75 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025 19:35 pm
For me it’s probably easier to list who I wouldn’t trade-
Herrera
Donovan
Winn
Scott
Walker
Libby
Pallante
Minors
Matthews
McGreevy
Roby
JJW
That's an interesting approach. I'd add Saggese to the Minors list. He should be with the Cardinals. He's a better hitter than some currently on the team.