Kyrou Money For Bennett

[Lone_Ranger]

It does make me a little nervous spending that kind of money on a guy that puts up a ton of assist playing next to guys that score a ton of goals. I don't watch enough Toronto games to know who is driving the ship I guess.

Marner is the straw that stirs the drink in Toronto

12 goals in 70 playoff games? Doesn't stir much.................

LMAO right? I'll order another drink instead

Another fail by Tim

It's not a fail by Tim nor am I taking a shot at him, but I do think Marner is overpaid and overrated. If I'm Toronto, I show him the door and give Sam Bennett a call ASAP.

[Pierre McGuire]

It does make me a little nervous spending that kind of money on a guy that puts up a ton of assist playing next to guys that score a ton of goals. I don't watch enough Toronto games to know who is driving the ship I guess.

Marner is the straw that stirs the drink in Toronto

12 goals in 70 playoff games? Doesn't stir much.................

LMAO right? I'll order another drink instead

Another fail by Tim

It's not a fail by Tim nor am I taking a shot at him, but I do think Marner is overpaid and overrated. If I'm Toronto, I show him the door and give Sam Bennett a call ASAP.

Pretty good chance Toronto does do or at least attempts to do that. Hard for me to call him overrated…he’s trending as a future HOF’er. Is he a bit of a prima donna …maybe but being from Toronto, playing for the Leafs, those guys get spoiled. Maybe he hasn’t been in the right locker room yet. Same things were said about Bouwmeester right here on this board and now he’s a Blues legend. Players can’t win…until they do.

[Lone_Ranger]

It does make me a little nervous spending that kind of money on a guy that puts up a ton of assist playing next to guys that score a ton of goals. I don't watch enough Toronto games to know who is driving the ship I guess.

Marner is the straw that stirs the drink in Toronto

12 goals in 70 playoff games? Doesn't stir much.................

LMAO right? I'll order another drink instead

Another fail by Tim

It's not a fail by Tim nor am I taking a shot at him, but I do think Marner is overpaid and overrated. If I'm Toronto, I show him the door and give Sam Bennett a call ASAP.

Pretty good chance Toronto does do or at least attempts to do that. Hard for me to call him overrated…he’s trending as a future HOF’er. Is he a bit of a prima donna …maybe but being from Toronto, playing for the Leafs, those guys get spoiled. Maybe he hasn’t been in the right locker room yet. Same things were said about Bouwmeester right here on this board and now he’s a Blues legend. Players can’t win…until they do.

True

[SRV1990]

i think the team has too many stars that cant handle physical play. that goes for matthews too, he cant handle physical bc he will get hurt.

Thanks for the reply. Very insightful.

I wonder if playoff-itis is catchy? As soon as 1 superstar falls for it, it spreads all the way to everybody above Sunqvist?

Who is Sunqvist? Does he play for the Leafs, the team Cards Fan was talking about?

[a smell of green grass]

i think the team has too many stars that cant handle physical play. that goes for matthews too, he cant handle physical bc he will get hurt.

Thanks for the reply. Very insightful.

I wonder if playoff-itis is catchy? As soon as 1 superstar falls for it, it spreads all the way to everybody above Sunqvist?

Who is Sunqvist? Does he play for the Leafs, the team Cards Fan was talking about?

Come on. You can connect the dots.

Marner-itis sounds like the same flu as Kyrou-itis.
If Marner-itis has indeed infected other players in Toronto, Kyrou-itis can infect others in St Louis.
We all know that Sunny would never come down with that flu.

[smegma]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

[Pierre McGuire]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

[DawgDad]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

[Pierre McGuire]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

[DawgDad]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

So you're trading Kyrou and at least one other player (in the $6-7 million range) for Marner, who you will be stuck with for 7 years. Because that's how much cap he will eat, if not more. Kyrou and a $6-7 million center might get this team into the Conference Finals.

[Pierre McGuire]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

So you're trading Kyrou and at least one other player (in the $6-7 million range) for Marner, who you will be stuck with for 7 years. Because that's how much cap he will eat, if not more. Kyrou and a $6-7 million center might get this team into the Conference Finals.

I’m not advocating signing Marner , I’m just saying the Blues lack a true a superstar player and here is one that is available.

[Army's Mom]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

So you're trading Kyrou and at least one other player (in the $6-7 million range) for Marner, who you will be stuck with for 7 years. Because that's how much cap he will eat, if not more. Kyrou and a $6-7 million center might get this team into the Conference Finals.

I’m not advocating signing Marner , I’m just saying the Blues lack a true a superstar player and here is one that is available.

Also, he'd greatly improve our abysmal PK from last year. If you moved out Kyrou or Buch, that plus the Krug LTIR should get you in Marner's ballpark. If you're Marner, you might like moving to less of a big market, to a team that is closer to winning than Chicago.

[DawgDad]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

So you're trading Kyrou and at least one other player (in the $6-7 million range) for Marner, who you will be stuck with for 7 years. Because that's how much cap he will eat, if not more. Kyrou and a $6-7 million center might get this team into the Conference Finals.

I’m not advocating signing Marner , I’m just saying the Blues lack a true a superstar player and here is one that is available.

Extrapolated out over 82 games Thomas is a 95 point center. Parayko and Fowler are top shelf defensemen. Binnington is at the top rung of international goaltenders. There is real talent on the Blues and more young players in line to step up. One grossly overpaid forward is not likely the answer for the Blues anymore than he was for the Leafs.

If the Blues were to acquire Marner they'd better be right about him putting them up on the top rung, because they are on the path to getting there without him. The $13-15 million salary neighborhood is a tough nut to swallow when plans go off rail.

[dhsux]

Marner is an easy way to possibly get a superstar…something the Blues truly lack and basically $8 mil of that could already be in the books if you move Kyrou. Then it comes down to if Army is comfortable giving him another $4 or $5mil per year. I don’t think it’s to far fetched that the Blues could have some interest on July 1st.

Does Kyrou's no trade clause kick in on the same day?

I believe so

He might kick the tires but I'd be shocked out of my Blues shirt if they outbid a team like Chicago or the Western Canada teams. Or Boston. Or a New York team. Or . . .

I think you have to step back and look at how he meshes on the roster with Thomas or the 2C assuming he plays RW. Could have Buchnevich-Thomas-Kyrou and Holloway-Schenn-Marner, but then Bolduc and Snuggerud need a center and Neighbours needs a place to play, and what about the defense you jettison to make that work? Good luck winning games 6-5.

Can’t have Buch and Kyrou along with Marner…one of those two would have to be moved

So you're trading Kyrou and at least one other player (in the $6-7 million range) for Marner, who you will be stuck with for 7 years. Because that's how much cap he will eat, if not more. Kyrou and a $6-7 million center might get this team into the Conference Finals.

I’m not advocating signing Marner , I’m just saying the Blues lack a true a superstar player and here is one that is available.

Extrapolated out over 82 games Thomas is a 95 point center. Parayko and Fowler are top shelf defensemen. Binnington is at the top rung of international goaltenders. There is real talent on the Blues and more young players in line to step up. One grossly overpaid forward is not likely the answer for the Blues anymore than he was for the Leafs.

If the Blues were to acquire Marner they'd better be right about him putting them up on the top rung, because they are on the path to getting there without him. The $13-15 million salary neighborhood is a tough nut to swallow when plans go off rail.

And IMO it's simply not going to happen.

Marner is NOT the key to the kingdom.

Not now and pretty sure not ever. That salary won't work here, period.

[TAFKAP]

Patience, it takes time. Getting a superstar winger without a quality 2C is like slapping a massive turbo on a stock engine. Sure, you see it on the internet, and it looks like a lot of fun, but when something breaks it'll punch a hole in your future as big as the hole you just made in the block.

Translating to English. If you don't address the 2C, you are one serious injury to Thomas away from a lottery team. Do you want to see Buch at Center again? Have we had enough of that? I did. I'd rather overpay for Bennett. He fills a need, a big need, and is Justin Williams level in the playoffs. [shirt], I'd give him and extra 1.5 a year just for his playoff resume'. THAT'S what we need.

[Cardsfanforlife]

It does make me a little nervous spending that kind of money on a guy that puts up a ton of assist playing next to guys that score a ton of goals. I don't watch enough Toronto games to know who is driving the ship I guess.

Marner is the straw that stirs the drink in Toronto

12 goals in 70 playoff games? Doesn't stir much.................

He’s almost a point per game player in the playoffs.

Maybe so but Nylander by far has been the best of the big 3. A close 2nd would be Matthews and Marner would be a distant 3rd IMO. Don't see any post-season impact from this guy. You can say what you want about assists but small goal total is telling.

Again, the numbers, if u look at willie, look great in playoffs! But no one was more of a ghost than willie was in games 5 thru 7. I think this is where just looking at numbers is misleading. I think there is something that stinks in leaf land that we all don't see. I don't know what it is. Maybe barks just shut them all down. Leafs look better than cane's do against the panthers.