BUFFALO IS A GOOD TRADE PARTNER

[Cardsfan1586]

This morning on the “32 Thoughts” Podcast, Elliotte Friedman reports that Kevyn Adams is gauging the market value for Defenseman Bowen Byram.

“There is no doubt his name is out there”

The narrative still is that there is a desire from Byram to have a bigger role. But with players like Dahlin and Power, those opportunities may not be there in Buffalo.


Would acquiring Byram set the stage for a legit left side on our defense?

Byram
Broberg
Lindstein
Tucker

[BluesDom]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/sa ... 748&ei=110

[BluesDom]

I like the trade.
It's a win for the Blues. Not sure they would like it.

Byram is a stud. Tuch is a large man. Good player. Would love to have him!
Sabres have many intriguing pieces.
Power would be awesome.

Byram is a lefty, we just don't need another lefty even if others aren't as good as him. We have a glut of lefty dmen both at the NHL and prospect level.

Tuch would be a solid get but I'm not trading Kyrou for him. I'd trade a prosect for him not much else.

Power isn't going anywhere unless you give up a kings ransom for him.

Makes sense. Id rather keep Kyrou here. Hes great imo. Buchnevich is one id be happy to lose. (for the right return) Hes good player--just a weird skill set.

[seattleblue]

If they have the same defense next year they're still not going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs .

Fans are focused on defense because we don't want to stay stuck where we are and there is a full blossom of offense in the pipeline. The priority is obviously defense. With the same situation at center they are getting in the playoffs next year and they can add someone at the deadline, it is so much easier than getting this anchor piece on D. I hope people realize we have an ok defense but it is not a contender defense.

[BluesDom]

If they have the same defense next year they're still not going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs .

Fans are focused on defense because we don't want to stay stuck where we are and there is a full blossom of offense in the pipeline. The priority is obviously defense. With the same situation at center they are getting in the playoffs next year and they can add someone at the deadline, it is so much easier than getting this anchor piece on D. I hope people realize we have an ok defense but it is not a contender defense.

I wonder if we could get Owen Power and piece for Buchnevich and Hofer and a prospect/pick.
They could use a goalie.

[TheJackBurton]

If they have the same defense next year they're still not going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs .

Fans are focused on defense because we don't want to stay stuck where we are and there is a full blossom of offense in the pipeline. The priority is obviously defense. With the same situation at center they are getting in the playoffs next year and they can add someone at the deadline, it is so much easier than getting this anchor piece on D. I hope people realize we have an ok defense but it is not a contender defense.

To start the season they will be fine.

They can get an upgrade in season.

A 2nd line center will likely not be available.

[MiamiLaw]

If they have the same defense next year they're still not going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs .

Fans are focused on defense because we don't want to stay stuck where we are and there is a full blossom of offense in the pipeline. The priority is obviously defense. With the same situation at center they are getting in the playoffs next year and they can add someone at the deadline, it is so much easier than getting this anchor piece on D. I hope people realize we have an ok defense but it is not a contender defense.

Agreed

[bluetunehead]

If they have the same defense next year they're still not going anywhere meaningful in the playoffs .

Fans are focused on defense because we don't want to stay stuck where we are and there is a full blossom of offense in the pipeline. The priority is obviously defense. With the same situation at center they are getting in the playoffs next year and they can add someone at the deadline, it is so much easier than getting this anchor piece on D. I hope people realize we have an ok defense but it is not a contender defense.

I wonder if we could get Owen Power and piece for Buchnevich and Hofer and a prospect/pick.
They could use a goalie.

Don't think they'd have any interest in Buch (at least not for Power), nor would he waive to go.

[hockey jedi]

Defensive help is on the way....We have Lindstein, Jericek, Ralph, Burns, Buchinger, plus another four tweeners. If we can add a young top-4 defenseman to add to our future core that doesn't cost too much, than I am for it. Enough with this Kyrou trade talk. He is a core forward that would not be easy to replace.

[dhsux]

If you’re trading with Buffalo, it’s Power or bust

How do you pry him loose?

What about Seider from Detroit? Would they be more likely to make a big trade for some forwards?

You don't get Power without basically an equal player like a Kyrou and a 1st. I don't see how this helps the Blues. Fans are focusing on defense and our win condition concern is offense. Tuch is someone who could be had but doesn't fill a need. Buffalo might be interested in some adjustment trades but they have to start believing their playoff hopes should be next year or the year after, especially with how weak the east is after the top 4-5ish. IT was really bad this year, so slight adjustments can get you those 5 wins or so you need to get yourself into playoff contention.

If the Blues are looking to make trades, they need to be looking at the Center position and be willing to give up a couple of their prospects and a draft pick. You would look at your Deans/Stenbergs/Peterson/Pekarcic and couple that with a 1st or 3rd-5th (don't have 2nds) depending on which player was plucked. If you could find a bottom feeder team to make the trade, then maybe you can offload Leddy's contract since it expires after the year, THEN you can start talking about trading for defense. But it all starts with addressing the center situation.

I'm not precluding anything by talking about trying to land a good young RHD.

I actually think DA could make a number of moves in both areas of need....not necessarily of equal value but nonetheless changes.

[Cahokanut]

There are many things id like from Buffalo.

But it would be Stupid Crazy to trade a Kyrou. Unless we are to rebuild and a top five pick, plus. Was coming back.

We need to get more of our youth, getting more of a opportunity. That way we don't have anymore 25yr olds management can't, won't, dont trust. But can play top four minutes on cup caliber teams

We need to move on from Leddy, a full-time Suter, and even Faulk.

On offense. We need a 2c or start heavy training with Buch Tex, or Holloway to be our 2c. We need to waive Sunny. And again We just need to trust our youth.

Kyrou.Thomas.Bolduc
Snuggler.Buch.Holloway
Neighbours.Schenn.Tex
Toro.Radka.Walker

Broberg.Parayko
Fowler.Faulk
Tucker.(Youth) Kessel or Shue

Binny. Hofer

Our nhl trade pieces need to be players that we can replace in-house or trade.
Hofer. Faulk, Buch, any bottom 6,
Prospects shouldn't be anyone we drafted in the last two/three years. Or any pick under 60 in next year's draft.

We should definitely look to trade off this year's first.
Adding on Faulk, or Hofer
should be able to land a second line center under 25.

I honestly think we'll again be on the bubble next year. So, If we just tank next year. We'll get that elite center we've been looking for. Smart....huh.

[Zizzle1297]

How does tuch not fill the need. Pretty sure he is a center?

[rbirules]

How does tuch not fill the need. Pretty sure he is a center?

He was 6th on the Sabres in faceoffs taken this season, he was 9th on the Sabres last season. Seems like he's a winger to me. he's taken 730 faceoffs in his career. Tage Thompson had that many last season alone.

[Blue Sabbath]

If you’re trading with Buffalo, it’s Power or bust

How do you pry him loose?

What about Seider from Detroit? Would they be more likely to make a big trade for some forwards?

You don't get Power without basically an equal player like a Kyrou and a 1st. I don't see how this helps the Blues. Fans are focusing on defense and our win condition concern is offense. Tuch is someone who could be had but doesn't fill a need. Buffalo might be interested in some adjustment trades but they have to start believing their playoff hopes should be next year or the year after, especially with how weak the east is after the top 4-5ish. IT was really bad this year, so slight adjustments can get you those 5 wins or so you need to get yourself into playoff contention.

If the Blues are looking to make trades, they need to be looking at the Center position and be willing to give up a couple of their prospects and a draft pick. You would look at your Deans/Stenbergs/Peterson/Pekarcic and couple that with a 1st or 3rd-5th (don't have 2nds) depending on which player was plucked. If you could find a bottom feeder team to make the trade, then maybe you can offload Leddy's contract since it expires after the year, THEN you can start talking about trading for defense. But it all starts with addressing the center situation.

Yep, if I'm Army center is my #1 priority. Would a new RHDman be a good get? Absolutely, but if we come back with the same defense next season I'm not worried.

If we come back with the same center situation then I'm worried.

Does Mercer fit the description of a 200 ft goal scorer?
Is he physical? Will he take a hit to make a play. Does he forecheck & back check, etc ?

[TheJackBurton]

If you’re trading with Buffalo, it’s Power or bust

How do you pry him loose?

What about Seider from Detroit? Would they be more likely to make a big trade for some forwards?

You don't get Power without basically an equal player like a Kyrou and a 1st. I don't see how this helps the Blues. Fans are focusing on defense and our win condition concern is offense. Tuch is someone who could be had but doesn't fill a need. Buffalo might be interested in some adjustment trades but they have to start believing their playoff hopes should be next year or the year after, especially with how weak the east is after the top 4-5ish. IT was really bad this year, so slight adjustments can get you those 5 wins or so you need to get yourself into playoff contention.

If the Blues are looking to make trades, they need to be looking at the Center position and be willing to give up a couple of their prospects and a draft pick. You would look at your Deans/Stenbergs/Peterson/Pekarcic and couple that with a 1st or 3rd-5th (don't have 2nds) depending on which player was plucked. If you could find a bottom feeder team to make the trade, then maybe you can offload Leddy's contract since it expires after the year, THEN you can start talking about trading for defense. But it all starts with addressing the center situation.

Yep, if I'm Army center is my #1 priority. Would a new RHDman be a good get? Absolutely, but if we come back with the same defense next season I'm not worried.

If we come back with the same center situation then I'm worried.

Does Mercer fit the description of a 200 ft goal scorer?
Is he physical? Will he take a hit to make a play. Does he forecheck & back check, etc ?

Admittedly I haven't watched a lot of him but he's a -25 his rookie season, then +22 his best all around season, -26 when the Devils dealt with all their injuries, and +4 this year.

Up and down but appears to be mainly a + player in his minor days so he has to play some defense.

Great thing about defense is it can be taught, offense can't.

Here is a scouting report on him (don't know much about the site so grain of salt type of thing but they speak highly of his speed, his defense, and goal scoring)

https://smahtscouting.com/2020/08/04/sc ... on-mercer/

[Backesdraft]

If you’re Buffalo you probably aren’t trading BB here unless one of our young stud forwards is part of the return package. I’m thinking they start with a Snuggy + Hofer ask. Frankly, I’d love to get my hands on BB but not for what Buffalo is going to want. That franchise and fanbase is desperate to get over the hump. They’re not making any trades unless they’re the out and out winner.