How's that "reset" (tanking) looking right now?

[Rojo Johnson]

It’s funny that ol’ Moe sabotaged his boss’ reset plans by handing out NTCs like they are cheap candy on Halloween. Just means that dumb (child born out of wedlock) never could see past his nose.

[thetank2]

It’s funny that ol’ Moe sabotaged his boss’ reset plans by handing out NTCs like they are cheap candy on Halloween. Just means that dumb (child born out of wedlock) never could see past his nose.

You must be miserable knowing that the Cardinals have a very good starting lineup.

[Carp4Cy]

It’s still a reset: it still takes time. Just think, when they get thru adding in the next1.5 years, two off seasons, we should be a league power.

What happening everyone is playing for the end of year assessment. Competition. In this case brought out the best in most.

The cuts/trades at the end of year will tighten the ship.

Why does it need to take time? Boston went worst to first - twice. In a single offseason. And that's the system Bloom grew up in. We should be a power in 26 if we make the right moves and don't artificially limit ourselves.

[Melville]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

You took no grief from me.
I supported replacing Goldschmidt with Contreras at 1B - in fact, I predicted it the day Willson was signed.
I supported keeping Gray, and Fedde, and Helsey (called for an extension for the latter) - and correctly said Fedde should only be traded at the summer deadline if the team was out of divisional contention.
As for N/A - he refused to report to Houston and there was nothing the team could do at that point.
I supported leaning into Winn, and Donovan, and Scott, and Pages as starters.
Said it was the correct decision to give Walker and Gorman the full 2025 season for further evaluation - and though the team reneged on its commitment in that regard, it remains the right thing to so.
I believe we agreed on these points far more than we disagreed.

[An Old Friend]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

It seems that it’s your own fault that you don’t understand what reset actually meant. Tanking was never part of the conversation.

Some posters felt reset meant getting rid of all the high priced veterans and going 100% with youth.
No so.

Truth is they would have traded all three of Gray, Arenado and Contreras if Arenado would agreed to go to Houston and Gray and Contraras would have waived their NTC. The goal was to give Bloom as clean of a slate as possible for 2026 while seeing what they had in the young players in 2025.

Those players told the org very early they weren’t going anywhere. Tanking was never in the realm of possibilities.

It was until it wasn't

So... your argument is that the Cardinals had a strategy to tank for one week? Contreras and Gray both indicated in early November they were staying put.

[thetank2]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

You took no grief from me.
I supported replacing Goldschmidt with Contreras at 1B - in fact, I predicted it the day Willson was signed.
I supported keeping Gray, and Fedde, and Helsey (called for an extension for the latter) - and correctly said Fedde should only be traded at the summer deadline if the team was out of divisional contention.
As for N/A - he refused to report to Houston and there was nothing the team could do at that point.
I supported leaning into Winn, and Donovan, and Scott, and Pages as starters.
Said it was the correct decision to give Walker and Gorman the full 2025 season for further evaluation - and though the team reneged on its commitment in that regard, it remains the right thing to so.
I believe we agreed on these points far more than we disagreed.

Boo hoo hoo.

[Charlie Smoke]

It’s funny that ol’ Moe sabotaged his boss’ reset plans by handing out NTCs like they are cheap candy on Halloween. Just means that dumb (child born out of wedlock) never could see past his nose.

You must be miserable knowing that the Cardinals have a very good starting lineup.

Aside from 2 sentence "Moe sucks" posts, Blojo's got nothing. Same as his prowess in the sack according to his old lady.

[CCard]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

Trading gray and Nolan doesn’t equal a ‘tear down.’

Goldy, Arenado and Gray, yes that would equal a tear down. Plus playing Siani in CF. Thankfully, most of the decisions were taken out of their hands. If only they had the coaches Milwaukee has in the minors. LOL

[CCard]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

I was w/you at 86 wins CC as long as they kept Helsley, Fedde and NADO.

This is a fun team to watch, they play hard and seem to have great chemistry.

Going to the stadium has been fun too, tons of wins and short lines!

I suspect I'll be getting more tix request from customers now that they're winning, bunch of frontrunners.

Yeah, I mean you don't blow up a team that close to being a playoff contender. It seems their agenda may have change since the team has gone on this streak. Hope it continues streaking.

[rockondlouie]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

I was w/you at 86 wins CC as long as they kept Helsley, Fedde and NADO.

This is a fun team to watch, they play hard and seem to have great chemistry.

Going to the stadium has been fun too, tons of wins and short lines!

I suspect I'll be getting more tix request from customers now that they're winning, bunch of frontrunners.

Yeah, I mean you don't blow up a team that close to being a playoff contender. It seems their agenda may have change since the team has gone on this streak. Hope it continues streaking.

For sure

The St. Louis Cardinals should never be equated w/the Pirates etal who selloff talent because they don't have the revenues to pay them.

Truthfully the return for Helsley or Fedde or whoever might never amount to anything, it's s total c r a p shoot since they're not bring back Top 5 talent.

BDWJr has enjoyed DECADES of 3+M attendance and can afford almost any player in MLB if he wanted to.

Honestly CC if Dewitt wanted to get back on that 3M pace, then he'd ok Mo/Bloom to ADD a piece or two in June/July if they're still in contention.

[CCard]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

I was w/you at 86 wins CC as long as they kept Helsley, Fedde and NADO.

This is a fun team to watch, they play hard and seem to have great chemistry.

Going to the stadium has been fun too, tons of wins and short lines!

I suspect I'll be getting more tix request from customers now that they're winning, bunch of frontrunners.

Yeah, I mean you don't blow up a team that close to being a playoff contender. It seems their agenda may have change since the team has gone on this streak. Hope it continues streaking.

For sure

The St. Louis Cardinals should never be equated w/the Pirates etal who selloff talent because they don't have the revenues to pay them.

Truthfully the return for Helsley or Fedde or whoever might never amount to anything, it's s total c r a p shoot since they're not bring back Top 5 talent.

BDWJr has enjoyed DECADES of 3+M attendance and can afford almost any player in MLB if he wanted to.

Honestly CC if Dewitt wanted to get back on that 3M pace, then he'd ok Mo/Bloom to ADD a piece or two in June/July if they're still in contention.

Preaching to the choir my friend. It all starts and ends with DeWitt. When you have a chance it's time spend so dough to go to the dance. Once their, you never know.

[sikeston bulldog2]

The reset is going great

-kids are performing
- Matz and Mik have reasonable trade value
- helsley will bring a haul.

Now- if u cut today, you’d have a hard time doing so. Maybe two players. Now add a stud off-season to this group. Competitive.

Add two- favorites.

[rockondlouie]

I took a lot of grief from some for saying an 84 win team should be bolstered, not discarded. Lest we not forget, Arenado was basically traded to Houston and he put the kibosh on it. And the Sonny Gray showcase was shutdown immediately by Gray himself. This is really got to aggravate the ownership that was pushing for a tear down. Let's hope they see the error of their ways. But...but...but...Milwaukee has all those coaches!

I was w/you at 86 wins CC as long as they kept Helsley, Fedde and NADO.

This is a fun team to watch, they play hard and seem to have great chemistry.

Going to the stadium has been fun too, tons of wins and short lines!

I suspect I'll be getting more tix request from customers now that they're winning, bunch of frontrunners.

Yeah, I mean you don't blow up a team that close to being a playoff contender. It seems their agenda may have change since the team has gone on this streak. Hope it continues streaking.

For sure

The St. Louis Cardinals should never be equated w/the Pirates etal who selloff talent because they don't have the revenues to pay them.

Truthfully the return for Helsley or Fedde or whoever might never amount to anything, it's s total c r a p shoot since they're not bring back Top 5 talent.

BDWJr has enjoyed DECADES of 3+M attendance and can afford almost any player in MLB if he wanted to.

Honestly CC if Dewitt wanted to get back on that 3M pace, then he'd ok Mo/Bloom to ADD a piece or two in June/July if they're still in contention.

Preaching to the choir my friend. It all starts and ends with DeWitt. When you have a chance it's time spend so dough to go to the dance. Once their, you never know.