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[quote="Monsieur De Treville" post_id=13023598 time=1746706789 user_id=334648]
I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.
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This times 10. He will eventually get traded or leave as a free agent and some team will give him the same chance guys like Walker and Gorman have gotten. He certainly can fill the role as an everyday 1st baseman or DH if given the chance to get into a groove. He may only have a 3 or 4 year window of success as a late bloomer, but I predict he will somewhere. A shame our system is so beholden to contracts and manager favorites.
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Agree with both of you. And StLMike, Baker's not really a late bloomer: he led the minors in HR two years ago with 33 HR, and had 32 last year, had 26 HR in AA in 2021, when he was 24.

The Cardinal brain trust just decided he wasn't worth giving a chance. Too bad for him he wasn't in the Angels or Pirates or As, etc., organization.

It’s for the best considering his limited playing time but he did well in the role he was assigned. He was on the team just to
Hit lefties and hit .296 .441 OBP .849OPS against them and hit .333 .500 OBP 1.056 OPS against them coming off the bench so I never really got all the criticism he got he did very well in the role he was on the team to do

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:53 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Strange take. Glad the org made the right call. Hopefully Herrera can pickup where he left off.

the EV's are there, I'm not sure the timing and trust in the knee are quite there. A lot of hard hit balls in Memphis, but mostly on the ground. Patience would be prudent amongst fans/CT in his first few games....that being said, he'll probably hit 3 HR's tomorrow and I'll look even more silly than usual

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:19 am

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:53 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Strange take. Glad the org made the right call. Hopefully Herrera can pickup where he left off.

the EV's are there, I'm not sure the timing and trust in the knee are quite there. A lot of hard hit balls in Memphis, but mostly on the ground. Patience would be prudent amongst fans/CF in his first few games....that being said, he'll probably hit 3 HR's tomorrow and I'll look even more silly than usual

That would be great the kid is a player.

Send him to the AL where he can DH

The Cardinals haven't figured out the utility of the DH yet.

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:20 am

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:19 am

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:53 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Strange take. Glad the org made the right call. Hopefully Herrera can pickup where he left off.

the EV's are there, I'm not sure the timing and trust in the knee are quite there. A lot of hard hit balls in Memphis, but mostly on the ground. Patience would be prudent amongst fans/CF in his first few games....that being said, he'll probably hit 3 HR's tomorrow and I'll look even more silly than usual

That would be great the kid is a player.

I guess we will miss him.

Baker should be traded for a reliever or best prospect you can get for him. I would assume this means Herrera will probably DH quite a bit, which is a good thing. IMO

thetank2 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:24 am

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:20 am

craviduce wrote: ↑08 May 2025 09:19 am

Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: ↑08 May 2025 08:53 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Strange take. Glad the org made the right call. Hopefully Herrera can pickup where he left off.

the EV's are there, I'm not sure the timing and trust in the knee are quite there. A lot of hard hit balls in Memphis, but mostly on the ground. Patience would be prudent amongst fans/CF in his first few games....that being said, he'll probably hit 3 HR's tomorrow and I'll look even more silly than usual

That would be great the kid is a player.

I guess we will miss him.

Herrera is coming back to the club you won’t be missing him.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:22 am

redbirdfan51 wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:00 am I think that is a signal that Herrera will be used primarily as a DH. Both Pages and Pozo deserve to be playing at this level. Besides Pages has shown the Cards he can even fill in at 2B when necessary. LOL!

Oh no doubt. Coming off a bad bone bruise, catching may be difficult and provide an opportunity to aggravate said injury.

Herrera was born to either DH or play LF. We don't need (at this time) a left fielder!

LF, please. (We may need to move our LF to RF)

Imagine having your future rest in the hands of that great baseball man, Moe Mozeliak. He is enamored with very large first basemen and has had a procession of them over the last 8-10 years. NONE OF THEM HAVE STUCK. Yet, that didn’t stop him from getting more. What an effing moron.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Totally agree with this. Would have liked to see him get at least a 10 game run just to see.

Rojo Johnson wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:28 am Imagine having your future rest in the hands of that great baseball man, Moe Mozeliak. He is enamored with very large first basemen and has had a procession of them over the last 8-10 years. NONE OF THEM HAVE STUCK. Yet, that didn’t stop him from getting more. What an effing moron.

But, yet being in the pennant race nearly every year Mo has been here. Imagine that.

hullie wrote: ↑08 May 2025 10:30 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

Totally agree with this. Would have liked to see him get at least a 10 game run just to see.

I agree, too. Yet, Moe is too clueless to give him a chance.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

He’s been available in the past in the Rule V. No takers. After some impressive power numbers in AAA, you’d think he’d be a hot commodity. Again, no takers. He’s another Ivan Cruz.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

In all fairness players in this position should be traded if possible. I just don’t see room for him with Cards and he deserves a fair shot.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑08 May 2025 07:19 am I feel bad for this kid...

Let's not pretend he's had multiple shots and failed. He's 28 and has had a grand total of 160 ABs spread out over 3 seasons. 34 ABs this season and he has a higher OPS than Burly, Walker, or Gorman.

I'm not saying he's Boog Powell...but he just hasn't really had a legit shot to either succeed or fail in The Show.

He has a career .338 SLG%, it’s .324 this year. I get it that he hasn’t had all that many PAs, but when he’s had the chance he hasn’t done enough. At this point the only thing he does well in the MLB is walk a lot. He should be traded for a reliever/pitcher if they could get one for him.