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Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 01 May 2025 18:51 pm
by Goldfan
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
THIS

Who was the rag arm they gave the ball at resumption of game? Where is all this great deep minor league pitching we hear about?

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 01 May 2025 21:47 pm
by ramfandan
Goldfan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:51 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
THIS

Who was the rag arm they gave the ball at resumption of game? Where is all this great deep minor league pitching we hear about?
Where is all this great deep minor league pitching we hear about?
[/quote] the top two rated pitchers ( Matthews & Hence ) are both out of action with injuries... so that's where they are since you asked but am quite sure you already know that.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 07:46 am
by 12xu
Baseball Savant wrote: 01 May 2025 15:44 pm The managing today after rain delay was puzzling
TLR would have held back Liberatore and started one of the relievers due to the certainty of an early rain delay. He did this to Dusty and the cubs and it worked perfectly. Liberatore would have come in after the delay and pitched nearly the rest of the game.
Of course it is possible that the starting reliever(s) would have been torched and the outcome would have been just as awful. Still would have been necessary for the Cards offense to not go into the deep freeze.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 07:47 am
by 12xu
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:53 pm I think we get Skenes middle gane of Rats series. Good -it’s at home. Bad -Skenes pitched bad today. Does he atone.
Cards are 3-0 vs Skenes. Can this continue?

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 07:57 am
by sikeston bulldog2
12xu wrote: 02 May 2025 07:47 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:53 pm I think we get Skenes middle gane of Rats series. Good -it’s at home. Bad -Skenes pitched bad today. Does he atone.
Cards are 3-0 vs Skenes. Can this continue?
Bad karma. Skenes off a bad game and he is due against us.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 08:18 am
by jcgmoi
The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
You've just described the entire NLC, not counting the can't-score Pirates.
Per Fangraphs Pythag numbers,

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Cubs    21	11	.650	2 games better
Reds	20	12	.619	3
Brewers	18	14	.550	2
Cardinals 16	16	.506	2
Pirates	12	20	.367	0
We're barely 20 percent through the season, looking at the weakest MLB division teams, using a stat that varies greatly based on quality of opposition, injuries, team match-ups, etc. IOW, it's a very noisy approach. It can be fun, hell it is fun, but it's not necessarily predictive.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 08:53 am
by rockondlouie
Agreed

Granted the bookend 1 run games from the offense was disappointing, but the way they've played on the road a split is acceptable.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
by sikeston bulldog2
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
by Futuregm2
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 09:49 am
by Goldfan
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 21:47 pm
Goldfan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:51 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
THIS

Who was the rag arm they gave the ball at resumption of game? Where is all this great deep minor league pitching we hear about?
Where is all this great deep minor league pitching we hear about?
the top two rated pitchers ( Matthews & Hence ) are both out of action with injuries... so that's where they are since you asked but am quite sure you already know that.
[/quote]

Cranny keeps telling me…..#3 in MLB

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
by scoutyjones2
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 09:56 am
by Futuregm2
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:
Mets split with Washington on the road recently and lost 2 of 3 to the Twins on the road. Anything can happen.

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 11:06 am
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:
Cardinals are 10-5 at Busch and slashing .289 .360 .449 .809.

Mutts are only .500 on the road at 8-8 and slashing .239 .320 .408 .728

I'll say Cards take 2/3 (only reason no sweep is I want to save one win for the Blues tonight :lol: ).

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 02 May 2025 15:57 pm
by scoutyjones2
rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 11:06 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:
Cardinals are 10-5 at Busch and slashing .289 .360 .449 .809.

Mutts are only .500 on the road at 8-8 and slashing .239 .320 .408 .728

I'll say Cards take 2/3 (only reason no sweep is I want to save one win for the Blues tonight :lol: ).
:lol:

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 03 May 2025 08:44 am
by rockondlouie
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 15:57 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 11:06 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:
Cardinals are 10-5 at Busch and slashing .289 .360 .449 .809.

Mutts are only .500 on the road at 8-8 and slashing .239 .320 .408 .728

I'll say Cards take 2/3 (only reason no sweep is I want to save one win for the Blues tonight :lol: ).
:lol:
Well I got my Blues win, you got your :lol: as the Cardinals reeked. :oops:

Re: Good series by Cardinals getting split on road

Posted: 03 May 2025 08:51 am
by scoutyjones2
rockondlouie wrote: 03 May 2025 08:44 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 15:57 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 02 May 2025 11:06 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:50 am
Futuregm2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:25 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 02 May 2025 09:02 am
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 18:46 pm
ramfandan wrote: 01 May 2025 18:30 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 01 May 2025 15:56 pm Its a sad sorry dark state of affairs in cardinal fandom when fans are giddy about a series split with the freaking reds. This is what Mo and Oli has reduced people to
Nobody is giddy . The Reds happen to have a better run differntial than all but two teams in the NL.. the Cubs & NY Mets
163 runs scored with 126 runs allowed a +37 Checking the espected W-L record for that +37 shows a record of 20-12
which is 3 games better than their 17-15 actual record.
Yea the lowly reds are going up as a franchise and Dewitt and Mo are dragging the cardinals down to where to the reds used to be where fans are happy if they just manage to split a series with a team over .500.
Your bullish. Id again counter on the road a four gane split is great. Shows .500 on the road. That’s a huge upgrade.

Had it been at home, I see your miff.
Yea, road is a different animal, especially this year. I wouldn’t say I’m “giddy” about a four game split at Cincinnati, but it’s certainly good enough. Now take 2 of 3 from the Mets and we’d be 6-4 over our last 10.
:lol:

2 of 3 from the Mutts. :lol:
Cardinals are 10-5 at Busch and slashing .289 .360 .449 .809.

Mutts are only .500 on the road at 8-8 and slashing .239 .320 .408 .728

I'll say Cards take 2/3 (only reason no sweep is I want to save one win for the Blues tonight :lol: ).
:lol:
Well I got my Blues win, you got your :lol: as the Cardinals reeked. :oops:
Like the Cards, can't win on the road. Blues are done Sunday. May the 4 th be with you