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I'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
You said that after he had the last clunker then nothing when he threw 6 shut out then 6 with 1 run then 6 with 2 and you will disappear like a ground hog when reels off three or four more good starts in a row then re-emerge when he has another bad one. Probably chomping at the bit for liebratore to have a bad one so you can pop out on him lolBully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:23 amYou said that after he had the last clunker then nothing when he threw 6 shut out then 6 with 1 run then 6 with 2 and you will disappear like a ground hog when reels off three or four more good starts in a row then re-emerge when he has another bad one. Probably chomping at the bit for liebratore to have a bad one so you can pop out on him lolBully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
Why is reality setting in now as opposed to the last clunker? After the last clunker he went 3 starts of 6+ innings and 2 runs or less given up.Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
+1Futuregm2 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:26 amWhy is reality setting in now as opposed to the last clunker? After the last clunker he went 3 starts of 6+ innings and 2 runs or less given up.Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
Just because I didn't navigate this siteFuturegm2 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:26 amWhy is reality setting in now as opposed to the last clunker? After the last clunker he went 3 starts of 6+ innings and 2 runs or less given up.Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
And I know this just as I knowFuturegm2 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:26 amWhy is reality setting in now as opposed to the last clunker? After the last clunker he went 3 starts of 6+ innings and 2 runs or less given up.Bully4you wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:18 amI'll give you that.Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:36 amIt’s funny you didnt post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 2 runs his last start and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 innings and gave up just 1 run the start before that and didn’t post this when he pitched 6 shut out innings the start before that you wait until now lol you’re a clown. He’s had 2 bad starts and 4 starts where he gave up two or fewer runs. I guess when lieberatore finally has a clunker you will be posting I told you he wasn’t a starter hes a reliever what are the cards doing lol
He had a few good games.
Reality is setting in though.
LoL. It's CT. Roller coaster of love and hate, based on what have you done fore me latelyWattage wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 07:55 am Fedde had a low 3s era entering this game. Do i think he will replicate last year. Id say there is a high chance he doesnt. But i think we need to stop insane overreactions to one start on both sides with fedde lately and just let the season play out a little more instead of me seeing fedde is great, fedde is bad. Agter every single start. Lol. Lets stop with the kneejerk reactions and see a little bigger sample size
Edman was a perfect fit.....for the Dodgers, not here at $9.5M.hmoss859 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 09:50 amEdman is worth every penny, he is a winning player.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:57 amTrade was a good one TRL no way BDWJr was paying T. Edman $9.5M or extending him.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:34 am That trade was perfectly fine. We gave up an injured, lesser version of Brendan Donovan for a starter who (when all is said and done) will have pitched to a 3.5 ERA over his year and a half here.
Fedde's had four outstanding starts, two clunkers.
He'll bring back a solid prospect in a few months.
Donovan is not the total player that Edman is.
There's a bunch of slugs on this team not remotely equal to Edman, such as Burleson, Gorman, Saggesse, Walker, Siani
Scott and Winn have a chance to be really good, the others, not so much.
Edman’s .243 average and .284 OBP would be the lowest average and OBP of his career. They have him hitting in the middle of the order (3-5th) more than anywhere else though, so SLG% is important there.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:59 amEdman was a perfect fit.....for the Dodgers, not here at $9.5M.hmoss859 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 09:50 amEdman is worth every penny, he is a winning player.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:57 amTrade was a good one TRL no way BDWJr was paying T. Edman $9.5M or extending him.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:34 am That trade was perfectly fine. We gave up an injured, lesser version of Brendan Donovan for a starter who (when all is said and done) will have pitched to a 3.5 ERA over his year and a half here.
Fedde's had four outstanding starts, two clunkers.
He'll bring back a solid prospect in a few months.
Donovan is not the total player that Edman is.
There's a bunch of slugs on this team not remotely equal to Edman, such as Burleson, Gorman, Saggesse, Walker, Siani
Scott and Winn have a chance to be really good, the others, not so much.
Donovan/28 yrs old (.286 .366 .416 .782/120 OPS+) is a better player than Edman/30 yrs old in a few weeks (.262 .316 .413 .729/101 OPS+) at almost $7M less. I'd take Donny 100 out of 100 times over Edman.
But agree w/your "slugs" except for Gorman, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on him just yet.
Not sure how anyone can think he's a better player than Donny who keeps getting better and better at a third of the salary.Futuregm2 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 11:07 amEdman’s .243 average and .284 OBP would be the lowest average and OBP of his career. They have him hitting in the middle of the order (3-5th) more than anywhere else though, so SLG% is important there.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 10:59 amEdman was a perfect fit.....for the Dodgers, not here at $9.5M.hmoss859 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 09:50 amEdman is worth every penny, he is a winning player.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:57 amTrade was a good one TRL no way BDWJr was paying T. Edman $9.5M or extending him.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:34 am That trade was perfectly fine. We gave up an injured, lesser version of Brendan Donovan for a starter who (when all is said and done) will have pitched to a 3.5 ERA over his year and a half here.
Fedde's had four outstanding starts, two clunkers.
He'll bring back a solid prospect in a few months.
Donovan is not the total player that Edman is.
There's a bunch of slugs on this team not remotely equal to Edman, such as Burleson, Gorman, Saggesse, Walker, Siani
Scott and Winn have a chance to be really good, the others, not so much.
Donovan/28 yrs old (.286 .366 .416 .782/120 OPS+) is a better player than Edman/30 yrs old in a few weeks (.262 .316 .413 .729/101 OPS+) at almost $7M less. I'd take Donny 100 out of 100 times over Edman.
But agree w/your "slugs" except for Gorman, I'm not ready to throw the towel in on him just yet.
He doesn't have sustained season over season success. You are assuming that he keeps this ratio. I doubt he becomes disaster bad, but he is likely to regress from last season.rockondlouie wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:57 amTrade was a good one TRL no way BDWJr was paying T. Edman $9.5M or extending him.TraveledLessRoad wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:34 am That trade was perfectly fine. We gave up an injured, lesser version of Brendan Donovan for a starter who (when all is said and done) will have pitched to a 3.5 ERA over his year and a half here.
Fedde's had four outstanding starts, two clunkers.
He'll bring back a solid prospect in a few months.