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Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

[fork] off. Saggese and Gorman are performing dumb[ash]

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:56 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

[fork] off. Saggese and Gorman are performing dumb[ash]

Gorman is performing? Hilarious. Where is he performing? The Muni?

makesnosense wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:56 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

[fork] off. Saggese and Gorman are performing dumb[ash]

Gorman is performing? Hilarious. Where is he performing? The Muni?

At least he's a league average OPS+ vs Bumbles. slugging at 400...almost 100 pts better and has a positive WAR.

It's performing vs Bumbles. Sorry that is too hard to understand..

He's barely had any ABs but still with more runs and RBIs.

makesnosense wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 08:01 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:56 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

[fork] off. Saggese and Gorman are performing dumb[ash]

Gorman is performing? Hilarious. Where is he performing? The Muni?

He has 45 ABs and 10 hits. Here's the intriguing part...of those 10 hits, 6 were for extra bases.
Cards have to play him and have to see what he can do over a full season.

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:05 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

"as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects". That is one of the reasons I feel the Cardinals will consider drafting slugging outfielder, LaViolette, if he's available at #5.

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:05 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

Trouble is he still hits like a middle infielder. A good one average wise, but few HRs. We need power from the corners going into 26 and beyond to truly compete, which is why I think a trade will be in order sooner or later.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 23:29 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:05 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

Trouble is he still hits like a middle infielder. A good one average wise, but few HRs. We need power from the corners going into 26 and beyond to truly compete, which is why I think a trade will be in order sooner or later.

Donovan has more HRs than Contreras and equal to Arenado. Arenado is not the Arenado of old.

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 23:29 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:05 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

Trouble is he still hits like a middle infielder. A good one average wise, but few HRs. We need power from the corners going into 26 and beyond to truly compete, which is why I think a trade will be in order sooner or later.

Donovan hits above league average ops for an outfielder in his career(im not basing off this year) He isnt a star there other than this year which he likely doesnt maintain, but we are weak in the outfield and hes the best we have. Problem is that we really lack any superstar hitters and we get significantly less from 1b so far and from dh which usually ends up being one of our weakest positions instead of strongest.

But despite expectations, corner outfield isnt the elite slugging fest it used to be and middle infield actually isnt the light hitting fest it used to be either

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

They all apparently play into your fixation on getting attention. So, there's that, I suppose.

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:45 pm

Bomber1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:40 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

I feel you need help.

Not joking.

Why's that? Why not give your baseball opinion instead of a snide remark?

Ok.

My baseball opinion is that you should seek mental help.

Bomber1 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 08:29 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:45 pm

Bomber1 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:40 pm

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:56 pm In what they can contribute. It will be interesting to see which two emerge to get the most playing time this season. Will it actually be based on production? I feel Burleson and Saggese are the two best hitters, overall.

I feel you need help.

Not joking.

Why's that? Why not give your baseball opinion instead of a snide remark?

Ok.

My baseball opinion is that you should seek mental help.

You make no sense. I assure you, you and nobody on CT intimidates me. Disrespectful posters just confirm their ignorance.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑28 Apr 2025 00:19 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 23:29 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 15:05 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 13:55 pm

Wattage wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 06:55 am

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑27 Apr 2025 00:18 am

Shady wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 23:25 pm

Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 15:01 pm There are no similarities except that none are complete players.

However, Walker seems like he can actually play Defense.

"There are no similarities except that none are complete players'. What is Saggese lacking?

inconsistent defense. Backs up into the OF on 2 hoppers to 3b then airmails the throw way over 1b, forgets to cover 2b. Makes an occassional good play to sorta make up for it. Not sure what his position actually is though.

Saggese's best position is probably 2b. 2b is obviously easiernthan ss and while 3b can be easier than 2b, i think saggese lacks the arm strength for some of the long throws.

trouble is, we have 4 2bmen once JJ is ready for the majors. And a pretty decent SS. Too much MI, none of them have hit at that MVP level that we should want at 1B (and hopefully at 3b)

Well, donovan is solid defensively as an outfielder and if walker doesnt start hitting, donovan might have to move there more often as we dont have a lot of mlb ready outfield prospects.

Trouble is he still hits like a middle infielder. A good one average wise, but few HRs. We need power from the corners going into 26 and beyond to truly compete, which is why I think a trade will be in order sooner or later.

Donovan has more HRs than Contreras and equal to Arenado. Arenado is not the Arenado of old.

Which is why we need to trade for upgrades, not immediately , but hopefully by next season. Nick Kurtz (combined) and Alonso both have 27 RBIs on the year. That's what corner production Should look like