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Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
by Cranny
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 08:12 am
by WLTFE
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:40 pm
hmoss859 wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 19:31 pm
Alienation means 20k attendance Friday night against Brewers
Rows and rows of empty seats
Bingo.
Exactly...DeTwit and Mo-ran are seeing what happens when you take fans for granted. I'm sure this thread will be hijacked by front Office (donkey) kissers whose only job is to argue with anyone who criticize the front office.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 14:34 pm
by Carp4Cy
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Who is buying tickets on the road? And if so, BDW sees none of that ticket revenue...
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
by Futuregm2
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
by desertrat23
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
When are you going to accept that simply not having a losing season isn’t good enough?
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
by MIDMOBIRDTWO
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 16:19 pm
by thetank2
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
Most twisted for sure.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 16:20 pm
by WLTFE
thetank2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:19 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
Most twisted for sure.
Yawn..you talking to yourself again?
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 19:10 pm
by Cranny
thetank2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:19 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:07 am
Poojols wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 08:00 am
Cranny wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 07:48 am
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
How many losing seasons in the last decade? And did they take the fans for granted when they traded for Ozuna? When they traded for Goldy? When they traded for Arenado? Sheesh.
Yes, we've been hearing the "no losing season" argument for a decade. Cleary it's not working. Who would have guessed that being cheap and incompetent could put the fanbase off?
You just named all three of the club's big bat moves over the past decade. Those moves were designed to trick people like you into thinking they are competing. Fortunately more and more people are waking up, hence the empty seats in 2025.
Got it. Major trades are’t to improve the team, be more competitive, or fill MOTO holes. They’re simple to “trick” the fans.
That may be one of the most ridiculous and dumbest things I’ve heard on here.
Most twisted for sure.
Tank - Don’t let stalker trolls bother you.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 19:54 pm
by An Old Friend
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
The Cardinals, White Sox, and Rockies are a combined 6-37 on the road.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 20:34 pm
by Futuregm2
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:54 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
The Cardinals, White Sox, and Rockies are a combined 6-37 on the road.
You left out:
KC 3-10
Min 3-10
Atl 3-11
Mil 4-11
Bal 5-10
Was 4-9
Phi 5-9
Tex 5-9
That is 1/3rd of the league that has absolutely terrible road records.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 20:42 pm
by An Old Friend
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:54 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
The Cardinals, White Sox, and Rockies are a combined 6-37 on the road.
You left out:
KC 3-10
Min 3-10
Atl 3-11
Mil 4-11
Bal 5-10
Was 4-9
Phi 5-9
Tex 5-9
That is 1/3rd of the league that has absolutely terrible road records.
No combination of any of those teams are as bad as the 3 I listed.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 20:44 pm
by Futuregm2
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:54 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
The Cardinals, White Sox, and Rockies are a combined 6-37 on the road.
You left out:
KC 3-10
Min 3-10
Atl 3-11
Mil 4-11
Bal 5-10
Was 4-9
Phi 5-9
Tex 5-9
That is 1/3rd of the league that has absolutely terrible road records.
No combination of any of those teams are as bad as the 3 I listed.
No but they are all brutal. And Atlanta is on their way to tying our terrible road record tonight.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 21:25 pm
by Futuregm2
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:44 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:42 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 20:34 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 19:54 pm
MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 16:17 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:38 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Seems like a baseball thing. The MLB road winning% this season is .392. That is almost 100 points lower than 2024.
Wow, that is a whale of a drop.
The Cardinals, White Sox, and Rockies are a combined 6-37 on the road.
You left out:
KC 3-10
Min 3-10
Atl 3-11
Mil 4-11
Bal 5-10
Was 4-9
Phi 5-9
Tex 5-9
That is 1/3rd of the league that has absolutely terrible road records.
No combination of any of those teams are as bad as the 3 I listed.
No but they are all brutal. And Atlanta is on their way to tying our terrible road record tonight.
Nevermind, Arizona’s bullpen sucks.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 21:31 pm
by AnExParrot
OldRed wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:27 pm
Cranny wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 17:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 16:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025 19:58 pm
someone enlightened me with a real good story about what he’s doing
This narrative that BDW is in the poorhouse because attendance and TV revs are down……someone should tell BDW that Star Players and Winning
Generate sellouts and TV eyes. So perhaps find some of that and not this lame (bleep) story about letting youth play, who probably aren’t that good…..
And then waiting 5-6 yrs for more youth….is this really the plan??
He and Reinsdorf are cut from the same cloth. Too loyal to guys running their franchise into mediocrity while taking their fan support for granted.
Wrong. A good business person never takes his customers/clients for granted.
Protect him all you want, I believe he has in this case.
That's just cranny's way of saying BDW isn't a good business man.
Re: If BDW isn’t intentionally alienating fan base
Posted: 26 Apr 2025 21:33 pm
by AnExParrot
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑26 Apr 2025 14:34 pm
Poojols wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 22:07 pm
Carp4Cy wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025 21:57 pm
We are 9-4 at Busch. What do the hometown fans have to complain about with that?
What about the road?
What about how the organization has operated the past decade?
Who is buying tickets on the road? And if so, BDW sees none of that ticket revenue...
Visiting teams get a portion of revenue when on the road...