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Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm
by 11WSChamps
If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 15:18 pm
by chuckaluck1
The opening day reaction to Mo.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 15:37 pm
by Mort Gage
Bright spots? The rotation, Donovan, Herrera, and Saggese. They will need Herrera when Donovan and Saggese eventually regress from their hot starts.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
by Shady
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.
Then why does your Subject Line state, "Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season"?

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
by Shady
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.
Then why does your Subject Line state, "Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season"?
My bad. I guess I need to spell things out better for nitpickers. But, you make a good point on the bright spots, in general. Donovan has been the brightest of the bright spots.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 19:51 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.
Then why does your Subject Line state, "Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season"?
My bad. I guess I need to spell things out better for nitpickers. But, you make a good point on the bright spots, in general. Donovan has been the brightest of the bright spots.
When you write "bright spots", but really mean "surprises"...that's not nitpicking. That's me responding to what you actually wrote...I'm not The Amazing Kreskin...I can't always know when you write something you mean something else!

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 20:43 pm
by Shady
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 19:51 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.
Then why does your Subject Line state, "Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season"?
My bad. I guess I need to spell things out better for nitpickers. But, you make a good point on the bright spots, in general. Donovan has been the brightest of the bright spots.
When you write "bright spots", but really mean "surprises"...that's not nitpicking. That's me responding to what you actually wrote...I'm not The Amazing Kreskin...I can't always know when you write something you mean something else!
Or you could do the decent thing and not make a big deal out of it. Why not just politely just give your opinion on whom you consider the "bright spots" and let it be?

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 20 Apr 2025 22:14 pm
by Monsieur De Treville
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 20:43 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 19:51 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:53 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:46 pm
Shady wrote: 20 Apr 2025 16:14 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:42 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:14 pm If people have been paying attention I would think Donovan isn't a complete surprise.

Guy had a pretty good season last year.
To b fair, the Subject Of this thread stated "bright spots"...

No, Hurdy Gurdy not a surprise, but he is a bright spot!
I was actually referring to players that were more surprises. But, yesiree', Donovan has really shined.
Then why does your Subject Line state, "Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season"?
My bad. I guess I need to spell things out better for nitpickers. But, you make a good point on the bright spots, in general. Donovan has been the brightest of the bright spots.
When you write "bright spots", but really mean "surprises"...that's not nitpicking. That's me responding to what you actually wrote...I'm not The Amazing Kreskin...I can't always know when you write something you mean something else!
Or you could do the decent thing and not make a big deal out of it. Why not just politely just give your opinion on whom you consider the "bright spots" and let it be?
Why did you have to tell me when you wrote "bright spots" you really meant "surprises". Heck, I was responding to another poster and you stuck your nose where it didn't belong and in typical ShadyButter style, made a fool of yourself!

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 01:12 am
by imetsatchelpaige
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:49 pm Libby, Pages, Saggese, Nootbar (healthy), Leahy If he's not worked to death..Scott showing some promise although he's cooled off (now time for adjustments)..
Cooled off? Argo is sinking...
Argo F yourself.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 01:56 am
by SalaDaeng
redbirdfan51 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 15:07 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:49 pm Libby, Pages, Saggese, Nootbar (healthy), Leahy If he's not worked to death..Scott showing some promise although he's cooled off (now time for adjustments)..
Walker's defense has improved greatly and decent job as a hitter. Hopefully his hitting will continue to a improve. Herrera's strong start is encouraging along with Donovan having such a great start. Libby is finally living up to what the organization expected. Saggese is an absolute keeper.
Love Saggese. He only just turned 23.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 07:22 am
by scoutyjones2
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 21 Apr 2025 01:12 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:49 pm Libby, Pages, Saggese, Nootbar (healthy), Leahy If he's not worked to death..Scott showing some promise although he's cooled off (now time for adjustments)..
Cooled off? Argo is sinking...
Argo F yourself.
Wow. Harsh to be so cruel to Argo

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 08:21 am
by scoutyjones2
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 21 Apr 2025 01:12 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:50 pm
11WSChamps wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:49 pm Libby, Pages, Saggese, Nootbar (healthy), Leahy If he's not worked to death..Scott showing some promise although he's cooled off (now time for adjustments)..
Cooled off? Argo is sinking...
Argo F yourself.
Argo...last 15 games
188/278/250/528

Last 7 games
158/238/158/496

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 08:57 am
by BrockFloodMaris
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:46 pm
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 20 Apr 2025 13:36 pm It looks like a whole different offense (for the better) compared to last year. Also, for a reset season a big part of the purpose is to sort out the roster and see what they are and are not. Early returns say Herrera and Saggese are hitters. Contreras can play first base. Scott can hit major league pitching enough to stay on the field. Pages can hit enough to be in the lineup consistently.
Liberatore can be a starter. Walker can play defense well enough to stay in RF. Still waiting to see if Walker will hit for power, if Gorman will hit with any consistency at all, what the heck can you do with Burleson, or if Herrera will be good enough defensively to remain at catcher. Answer as many of these questions this year as you can.
Yeah....no. making all this up after 20 games.

Look at these last 3...and today


The brief blip is over

Bumbles, JW, UniKKKorn all can't hit. Pages had his moment and is meh. VS2 is sinking
No one else can draw conclusions after 20 games—except you? I want to see more data points on JW, NG and VS2. I’m about done with AB, and Baker, but not entirely.

Re: Cardinals bright spots, so far, this season

Posted: 21 Apr 2025 09:04 am
by rockondlouie
I was not impressed at all w/Saggese when I first saw him last season, even called him JAG.

But the kid has really opened my eye's, to me he's the "bright spot" among the hitters.

On the pitching side like many I've been skeptical Libby had the pitches to get out RHH'ers as a starter, thought he'd be a great MRP the rest of his career.

But C. Bloom inserting him into the rotation the end of STing, rather than letting Mo/Oli keep him in the pen', makes Libby the pitching "bright spot".

Call all change w/the SSS, but these are my two bright spots of the early season.