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Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:17 am
by Mort Gage
Walker is 2 for his last 16. Three XBH this season. 23 Ks to 5 BBs. I don't mind seeing him get a day off. The offense after its initial burst has begun its regression to the mean. But I like what Liberatore has done and see a good start from him today on national TV.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:18 am
by sikeston bulldog2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:49 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Just a no name manager in our great history. Wish we could use white out to remove it.
Compare to the Blues.
They fire Drew Bannister who they were floundering under, an Oli like nothing, and hire Jim Montgomery.
Blues soar under Monty right into the playoffs.
Until the Cardinals dump this sad sack excuse of a Manager, they'll keep floundering too.
I was a product of you as a leader, your toughest challenge is creating a creative work place and putting every person in the best position for them to excel thus the organization succeeds. A baseball team would be a prime example. I don’t see it here.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:22 am
by Mort Gage
The Mets are -190 favorites which looks a little steep. The over/under is 8.5. If I had to bet I'd take the under.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:24 am
by slimjay63801
82birds wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:48 am
thx Duce
I dislike 3:05pm starts.
usually a shade/bright sunlight between mound and HP at least late in game (at least in summertime)
but......today.....,,.
I reallly dislike it cuz with a 12:15 start the game would be over far before Blues game starts at 5pm.
now they will overlap, at least somewhat
of course if they Cards are out of it by late game....
I was thinking the same thing. I want to watch both but the Blues are a "must watch"..
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:29 am
by OldRed
Futuregm2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:40 am
Never gonna learn anything is he? Burly and Contreras.
Saggese and Contreras need to be flopped in the order. Who besides Burleson?
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:29 am
by blackinkbiz
Mort Gage wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:17 am
Walker is 2 for his last 16. Three XBH this season. 23 Ks to 5 BBs. I don't mind seeing him get a day off. The offense after its initial burst has begun its regression to the mean. But I like what Liberatore has done and see a good start from him today on national TV.
Yeah this is a huge start for Libby. Was his last start the norm we can come to expect, or is he the same Libby who peppers in one good start out of every 3 to 5?
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:32 am
by rockondlouie
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:18 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:09 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:49 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Just a no name manager in our great history. Wish we could use white out to remove it.
Compare to the Blues.
They fire Drew Bannister who they were floundering under, an Oli like nothing, and hire Jim Montgomery.
Blues soar under Monty right into the playoffs.
Until the Cardinals dump this sad sack excuse of a Manager, they'll keep floundering too.
I was a product of you as a leader, your toughest challenge is creating a creative work place and putting every person in the best position for them to excel thus the organization succeeds. A baseball team would be a prime example.
I don’t see it here.
Ditto
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
by scoutyjones2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?

Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
by sikeston bulldog2
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:43 am
by rockondlouie
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
BUT
The Cardinals have done BETTER vs a lot of those "really good pitchers" while struggling vs to many of the "mehs".
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:45 am
by rockondlouie
craviduce wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:07 am
That's all from me today. Someone else will need to post the Mets' lineup (still not published)
Enjoy the day, Folks!!!
GO CARDS!!!
LindorSS
Soto, JRF
Alonso1B
Vientos3B
Marte, SDH
NimmoLF
TorrensC
Acuña2B
AzocarCF
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:47 am
by sikeston bulldog2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
BUT
The Cardinals have done BETTER vs a lot of those "really good pitchers" while struggling vs to many of the "mehs".
Not many low caliber types. And most that we have faced are all coming off good former starts. All the Mets pitchers throw great last games before us.
Sooner or later we will get a guy or two in a rough stretch. Then we must do fdamage.
We’ve treaded water well through these pitchers.
Or maybe we are a team that plays to the level of its competition thus the beating of good pitchers.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:49 am
by rockondlouie
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
BUT
The Cardinals have done BETTER vs a lot of those "really good pitchers" while struggling vs to many of the "mehs".
Not many low caliber types. And most that we have faced are all coming off good former starts. All the Mets pitchers throw great last games before us.
Sooner or later we will get a guy or two in a rough stretch. Then we must do fdamage.
We’ve treaded water well through these pitchers.
Or maybe we are a team that plays to the level of its competition thus the beating of good pitchers.
And can't win on the road, in one run games or extra innings

Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 11:54 am
by sikeston bulldog2
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:49 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
BUT
The Cardinals have done BETTER vs a lot of those "really good pitchers" while struggling vs to many of the "mehs".
Not many low caliber types. And most that we have faced are all coming off good former starts. All the Mets pitchers throw great last games before us.
Sooner or later we will get a guy or two in a rough stretch. Then we must do fdamage.
We’ve treaded water well through these pitchers.
Or maybe we are a team that plays to the level of its competition thus the beating of good pitchers.
And can't win on the road, in one run games or extra innings
Well those are new issues. Don’t know why the road is rough, but a couple xtra losses came on road, so it skews it a bit. As for losing in extra, that’s simply strategy. And I don’t think we do extras well.
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 12:02 pm
by scoutyjones2
Re: GDT: Cards @ Mets (4/19) ~ 3:05pm CDT
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 12:11 pm
by rockondlouie
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:54 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:49 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:47 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:43 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:39 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 11:36 am
rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:45 am
Thx duce
From Bernie 4/18:
CONTRERAS BATTING 2ND: For a time, manager Oli Marmol briefly moved Contreras down in the lineup, and that seemed to relax a hitter that was stressing under pressure when batting in the No. 2 spot.
Granted, it was only 17 plate appearances away from the second spot, but Contreras responded with a .313 average. .353 onbase percentage, and .563 slug. Plus a homer, double, three RBIs and only three strikeouts. The reset was helping.
Contreras was slotted back into the No. 2 spot for the last three games, and he’s hitless in 11 at-bats with three strikeouts.
In 61 plate appearances when utilized as STL’s No. 2 hitter this season. Contreras is 5 for 56 (.089) with a 36 percent strikeout rate.
Among the 27 MLB hitters that have logged at least 40 plate appearances when batting second this season, Contreras ranks last with his .089 average, and last with his 36% strikeout rate.
Marmol has to rethink his stance on using Contreras as the No. 2 guy
Lol. 14 games
I put more on that he's not catching and playing 1b...which he's doing very well.
Didn't he have a double yesterday?
Not to be forgotten is, we have faced some really good pitching. Sooner or later, it has to drop a notch. Then we will again see what we got on offense.
BUT
The Cardinals have done BETTER vs a lot of those "really good pitchers" while struggling vs to many of the "mehs".
Not many low caliber types. And most that we have faced are all coming off good former starts. All the Mets pitchers throw great last games before us.
Sooner or later we will get a guy or two in a rough stretch. Then we must do fdamage.
We’ve treaded water well through these pitchers.
Or maybe we are a team that plays to the level of its competition thus the beating of good pitchers.
And can't win on the road, in one run games or extra innings
Well those are new issues. Don’t know why the road is rough, but a couple xtra losses came on road, so it skews it a bit. As for losing in extra, that’s simply strategy. And I don’t think we do extras well.
Strategy and Oli, like oil and water.
