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Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 15:07 pm
by Cardly
Lineups need more than two good hitters. Wait to see how well Arenado does when traded to the Phillies or Dodgers. He will hit well as they have a number of “aircraft carriers” in the lineup.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 15:25 pm
by Jatalk
Cardinals were ABSOLUTELY correct to move on from him. He did not perform last two years.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 16:15 pm
by Carp4Cy
DRoss wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 09:07 am
Isn't PG's track record that he doesn't heat up until the weather warms up?
I wonder what caused the sudden change this late in his career <cough> being on a one-year contract <cough>?
Sea level. Yankee stadium is hitter friendly in April. Busch isn't until July.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 17:03 pm
by DewittDaman11
I suspect Goldy's underperformance the last 2 seasons, like Arenado's, had more to do with the organization's level of disfunction than it did with real physical decline. I believe the loss of Yadi so dismantled particularly the pitching system, as well as leaving a huge void in leadership, led to both of them maybe losing hope, which got in their heads, and led to their dismal showings.
I think they also both just needed at least one of the two of them to perform, which would have helped the other perform, just cause it works that way. The chemistry wasn't optimal. I said it then, and, I'll say it again, even if I'm later proven wrong, that talent like the level both Goldy and Arenado have, doesn't just fall off a cliff, barring injury. It happens, always, eventually, but, not overnight, gradually, over a 2 to 4 year period, IMO.
I wanted the Cardinals to sign Goldschmidt to a 2-3 year extension, and, although I understand why they didn't, I feel it's a shame a great player like him won't get to retire a Cardinal.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 18:55 pm
by woofy25
DRoss wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 14:15 pm
woofy25 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 09:31 am
DRoss wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 09:07 am
Isn't PG's track record that he doesn't heat up until the weather warms up?
I wonder what caused the sudden change this late in his career <cough> being on a one-year contract <cough>?
Was he not on the equivalent of a one year contract last season?
No. He was in the last season of a multi-year contract.
Now that he's experienced an season that set his value nowhere close to the last year of his Cards contract, it could be he's hellbent on producing the entire season to get another contract or better contract for next year.
Yes, it was the equivalent of a one year deal. He could have been hellbent on producing last year to get another contract. Works the same way
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 19:44 pm
by scoutyjones2
DewittDaman11 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 17:03 pm
I suspect Goldy's underperformance the last 2 seasons, like Arenado's, had more to do with the organization's level of disfunction than it did with real physical decline. I believe the loss of Yadi so dismantled particularly the pitching system, as well as leaving a huge void in leadership, led to both of them maybe losing hope, which got in their heads, and led to their dismal showings.
I think they also both just needed at least one of the two of them to perform, which would have helped the other perform, just cause it works that way. The chemistry wasn't optimal. I said it then, and, I'll say it again, even if I'm later proven wrong, that talent like the level both Goldy and Arenado have, doesn't just fall off a cliff, barring injury. It happens, always, eventually, but, not overnight, gradually, over a 2 to 4 year period, IMO.
I wanted the Cardinals to sign Goldschmidt to a 2-3 year extension, and, although I understand why they didn't, I feel it's a shame a great player like him won't get to retire a Cardinal.
That paints a pathetic picture of Goldy.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 19:59 pm
by Voldemort
I am happy for Goldy and wish him well the rest of his career.
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 19 Apr 2025 22:49 pm
by Bushiro
Vacardfan1964 wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025 10:32 am
Goldy is nothing more than a complimentary player. He does best when he can stay in the shadows of true stars. He did it in 2022 when AP did his farewell tour and now with Judge. Wait til the big limelight games...
... he'll fold like a card house.
Are u serious...u talking his whole career?
Re: Goldschmidt's hot start
Posted: 20 Apr 2025 01:10 am
by Cardinalologist
I rather have Herrera at first than Goldschmidt or Contreras