Best And Worst Moves Of The Doug Armstrong Tenure

[TBone]

I'd love to know how he assembled our scouting department. They've done top shelf work for constantly picking in the teens or higher.

And the volume of scouts involved (seen in the behind the scenes draft movies) surprised me. Far more extensive than I had imagined.

[britishblue]

The 5 best moves for me are:

JayBo trade.
ROR trade.
Trading Runblad for the pick that became Tank (technically he wasnt GM for another 5 days but its pretty widely accepted that was Army ans Jarmo).
Buch trade has to be up there.
The offer sheets, although still v early.

The 5 worst:
Oshie trade - getting 1 year of Brouwer for Oshie was a awful return.
Miller trade - gave up a lot, Miller was rubbish. Didnt have a long term impact on us but still a swing and miss.
The d post Petro - not just Krug, but its taken 4 years to fix. Thats not all on Army, JayBo was a big loss.
The first Perron trade - MPS was poor and we used the cap space to sign Derick Roy.
Mike Yeo - the whole coach in waiting followed by him being so bad that he coached the team that ended up winning the cup to last place.

Army has been a very good GM for us, over the last 15 years there really arent many GMs who have been better.

[netboy65]

The 5 best moves for me are:

JayBo trade.
ROR trade.
Trading Runblad for the pick that became Tank (technically he wasnt GM for another 5 days but its pretty widely accepted that was Army ans Jarmo).
Buch trade has to be up there.
The offer sheets, although still v early.

The 5 worst:
Oshie trade - getting 1 year of Brouwer for Oshie was a awful return.
Miller trade - gave up a lot, Miller was rubbish. Didnt have a long term impact on us but still a swing and miss.
The d post Petro - not just Krug, but its taken 4 years to fix. Thats not all on Army, JayBo was a big loss.
The first Perron trade - MPS was poor and we used the cap space to sign Derick Roy.
Mike Yeo - the whole coach in waiting followed by him being so bad that he coached the team that ended up winning the cup to last place.

Army has been a very good GM for us, over the last 15 years there really arent many GMs who have been better.

Perron was moved the first time so we could re-sign Petro.
Oshie forced his hand by calling out Hitch in the press.
Miller trade sucked in the end, but I applaud the effort.

[John Cocktoastin]

The 5 best moves for me are:

JayBo trade.
ROR trade.
Trading Runblad for the pick that became Tank (technically he wasnt GM for another 5 days but its pretty widely accepted that was Army ans Jarmo).
Buch trade has to be up there.
The offer sheets, although still v early.

The 5 worst:
Oshie trade - getting 1 year of Brouwer for Oshie was a awful return.
Miller trade - gave up a lot, Miller was rubbish. Didnt have a long term impact on us but still a swing and miss.
The d post Petro - not just Krug, but its taken 4 years to fix. Thats not all on Army, JayBo was a big loss.
The first Perron trade - MPS was poor and we used the cap space to sign Derick Roy.
Mike Yeo - the whole coach in waiting followed by him being so bad that he coached the team that ended up winning the cup to last place.

Army has been a very good GM for us, over the last 15 years there really arent many GMs who have been better.

Great call. Rundblad for Tank. Has to be considered highway robbery. Unbelievable.

[TAFKAP]

The 5 best moves for me are:

JayBo trade.
ROR trade.
Trading Runblad for the pick that became Tank (technically he wasnt GM for another 5 days but its pretty widely accepted that was Army ans Jarmo).
Buch trade has to be up there.
The offer sheets, although still v early.

The 5 worst:
Oshie trade - getting 1 year of Brouwer for Oshie was a awful return.
Miller trade - gave up a lot, Miller was rubbish. Didnt have a long term impact on us but still a swing and miss.
The d post Petro - not just Krug, but its taken 4 years to fix. Thats not all on Army, JayBo was a big loss.
The first Perron trade - MPS was poor and we used the cap space to sign Derick Roy.
Mike Yeo - the whole coach in waiting followed by him being so bad that he coached the team that ended up winning the cup to last place.

Army has been a very good GM for us, over the last 15 years there really arent many GMs who have been better.

Perron was moved the first time so we could re-sign Petro.
Oshie forced his hand by calling out Hitch in the press.
Miller trade sucked in the end, but I applaud the effort.

Other things to remember, along with MPS we got Edmonton's 2014 2nd which was pick #33 used to select Ivan Barbashev.

Troy Brouwer got the game winner in Game 7 to start the "Decade Of Futility" for the Hawks. Troy Brouwer made Chicago's last "real" playoff win be April 23, 2016. The 2016 run was so much fun with Reaves blowing kisses at the Dallas bench. Worth it to me.

[Stlcardsblues]

The Pat Maroon discussion (one of the few Armstrong mistakes, albeit low level) got me thinking about DA's entire tenure with the Blues.

What would you include as his best and worst decisions in his time with St. Louis? Players, coaches, scouting, etc.

I am going to start with my positives, the offer sheets, Fowler trade, O’Reilly Trade with Buffalo, recent draft picks, Suter signing, trade with the Rangers for Buchnevich.

Negatives the messy handling of Peron’s situation, not extending Petro, bad trade on Barbachev, messy handling of Taresenkos injury (not only his blame), Krug signing, Faulk Trade

[JB2011]

The biggest mistake IMHO is hard to call a mistake because it worked out in the end. The whole "Coach In Waiting" thing with Yeo. I never understood that hire. He was a tool before, during, and after his tenure here.

I know people are going to say Petro, but, I think that was S.tillman's call in the end.

I'll say Krug, there was really no upside on that deal.

Great points. That whole "coach in waiting" was predictably bad the minute that I heard about it.

This said, he's still light years better than the idiot who runs the Cardinals.

[MandatoryDenial]

Worst moves:

1.). Alex Pieterangelo failure to sign
2.). TJ Oshie deal
3.). The First David Perron deal


Best moves:

1.) Jay Bouwmiester trade
2.). Holloway/Broberg signing
3.). Ryan O’Rielly trade (to StL)

[Cardsfanforlife]

The 5 best moves for me are:

JayBo trade.
ROR trade.
Trading Runblad for the pick that became Tank (technically he wasnt GM for another 5 days but its pretty widely accepted that was Army ans Jarmo).
Buch trade has to be up there.
The offer sheets, although still v early.

The 5 worst:
Oshie trade - getting 1 year of Brouwer for Oshie was a awful return.
Miller trade - gave up a lot, Miller was rubbish. Didnt have a long term impact on us but still a swing and miss.
The d post Petro - not just Krug, but its taken 4 years to fix. Thats not all on Army, JayBo was a big loss.
The first Perron trade - MPS was poor and we used the cap space to sign Derick Roy.
Mike Yeo - the whole coach in waiting followed by him being so bad that he coached the team that ended up winning the cup to last place.

Army has been a very good GM for us, over the last 15 years there really arent many GMs who have been better.

Buch trade ok, buch 2 extension was number 1 worst or close to it.

[Sweet Jones]

Best: absolutely nothing


Worst: every single transaction he was ever involved with



[/bomac]

Hi
Obviously, trading DJ King tops the list.

That’s where ‘it all started’.

[hockey jedi]

I don't think the Faulk trade was a bad trade. In fact, it was a good trade. We gave up little to get a player that played pretty good hockey for the Blues. He is showing signs of decline, but we still won the trade.

[TAFKAP]

I don't think the Faulk trade was a bad trade. In fact, it was a good trade. We gave up little to get a player that played pretty good hockey for the Blues. He is showing signs of decline, but we still won the trade.

For sure, he's been MILES better than Eddy, a guy who never made an NHL roster, and a 7th.

Faulk was instrumental in holding the defense together when CP55 had his back problems in 2021. He had a monster 2022 as well, as bad as 2023 was, he still had 50 points. He's showing his age, but when he was signed, they weren't thinking a retool was this close.