Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
Roycroft had a career BB/9 of 4.8 in the minors, Munoz is 4.7. They both have control issues. About same K rate too (9.7 for Munoz to 9.5 for Roycroft). My expectations are low.
Same

My expectations are low, just glad Roycroft is outta here.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
The strike zone don’t get no larger at the ML level. If anything, it shrinks. And being a rookie?

What could go wrong.
Low expectations here too, but Roycrap had to go.

I'd put Libby back in the pen', never wanted him to start.

Callup McGreevy to start, send down Fernandez or King if he has options left.

Best case would be to DFA Mikolas or find a reason to IL him for the season.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Let the changes begin…
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
He pitched with Miami for a while last season.

Either way, maybe he'll be better than Roycroft. Maybe he won't. But we had to do something.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:10 pm Thank you, this kid brings the K heat we need in the pen'

Finally Mo gets off his a z z and makes a pen' move.

One more bad outing and Fernandez needs to join Roycrap.
You need to see more from porn stache?
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:30 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
The strike zone don’t get no larger at the ML level. If anything, it shrinks. And being a rookie?

What could go wrong.
I don't believe he's a rookie..I believe he had around 20 starts for the Marlins last season.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Absolut wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:57 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:10 pm Thank you, this kid brings the K heat we need in the pen'

Finally Mo gets off his a z z and makes a pen' move.

One more bad outing and Fernandez needs to join Roycrap.
You need to see more from porn stache?
Not really but I know Mo does :wink:
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:28 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
Roycroft had a career BB/9 of 4.8 in the minors, Munoz is 4.7. They both have control issues. About same K rate too (9.7 for Munoz to 9.5 for Roycroft). My expectations are low.
Sounds like rearranging the deck chairs in the bullpen.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
and Romero.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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hugeCardfan wrote: 10 Apr 2025 16:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
and Romero.
Not sure I would put him in the category with those guys. His peripherals kind of stink and his 2nd half last year was terrible (5.40 ERA/.846 OPS against).
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 16:16 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 10 Apr 2025 16:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
and Romero.
Not sure I would put him in the category with those guys. His peripherals kind of stink and his 2nd half last year was terrible (5.40 ERA/.846 OPS against).
He’s had a lot of traffic, especially for someone with a fairly unremarkable K%.
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Last season he gave up a metric shitonne of homers
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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Munoz may not be much better than Roycroft, but it was time to give him a chance.
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Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
3 of those walks were in his last outing...to go with a HBP, I believe. Wasn't pretty. Welcome to the St. Louis.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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hugeCardfan wrote: 10 Apr 2025 16:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:25 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:22 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:18 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:15 pm
Basil Shabazz wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:12 pm
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 10 Apr 2025 12:09 pm I'm looking forward to Munoz major league debut. Hi K rate and has opened the season well at Memphis, following a decent ST showing.
Have you seen is BB rate at Memphis? 1 per inning! Which leads to his 1.6 WHIP. He plays w/ fire every time out it seems. Should be a fun cardiac show when he pitches.
5 walks in 5 innings in AAA. What could go wrong?
Not good (let's hope it was poor umpiring :lol: ) but look who he's replacing:

Roycroft
5 2/3 IP
6 Walks
I don't disagree with the move at all. Roycroft is just not good and also deals with control issues. Just pointing out that Munoz's biggest issue is also control.

Maybe we catch lightening in a bottle for a little bit w/ Munoz. Kind of like when Genesis Cabrera was right.
No doubt, he's got to throw strikes.

Fingers crossed, they need another quality arm to go w/Helsley, Maton & Leahy.
and Romero.
JoJo? 8O

I don't trust him huge, no way he belongs w/Helsley, Maton and Leahy as reliable pen's arms.
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Re: Roycroft down--Munoz up

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12xu wrote: 10 Apr 2025 21:17 pm Munoz may not be much better than Roycroft, but it was time to give him a chance.
Right?

It shouldn’t take “great” to replace “bad.”
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