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icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:28 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:22 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:20 pm They were saying in ESPN tonight gracefully that Mikolas pitches to contact. In other words, he heaves it and hopes for at 'em balls.

He got 4 swinging strikes in his previous outing vs. the Angels.

If they cared about winning at all, they'd DFA him tomorrow. But they won't.

Yeah, how is he part of even a "reset"? McGreevy should be taking his place now.

Their only hope is to dump him and hope an organization that knows what they are doing, takes a flyer on him. Then the Mo can bring up a league minimum pitcher and calm the old man's nerves about putting out more $$

icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:20 pm They were saying in ESPN tonight gracefully that Mikolas pitches to contact. In other words, he heaves it and hopes for at 'em balls.

He got 4 swinging strikes in his previous outing vs. the Angels.

Batters hit to contact.

Unfortunately, Mikolas will force them to react sooner than they would have wanted to promote McGreevy.

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 23:57 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:22 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:20 pm They were saying in ESPN tonight gracefully that Mikolas pitches to contact. In other words, he heaves it and hopes for at 'em balls.

He got 4 swinging strikes in his previous outing vs. the Angels.

If they cared about winning at all, they'd DFA him tomorrow. But they won't.

They could have maybe traded him for a filler piece, similar level mistake and gotten out of a little of his contract. But after this showing you couldn't give him away. He needed to be gone, but he has a good thing going, due to Mo's pride. So he was always going to invoke the NTC.

Players on the team see if you have a contract you play, no matter how bad your performance is. That has to end.

Arguably the worst pitcher in baseball? I'm not sure you could get a bucket of balls for him. Or even a couple of balls to fondle. LOL Especially with that contract.

There is no team taking any portion of his contract. If he were released, I don't know if any team would pick him up for the prorated portion of league minimum. Another case of stubborn ego by the decision makers. They don't reassess, the double down. Yesterday he "ate" 2.2 innings. His ERA is over 11. I don't think even these guys will allow him to continue at that pace all year. History says they will be slow to act. If he gets his ERA down to 6.00, would that be ok? How about the 5.35 he had last year, can we hope for that? What are we doing here?

Yeah I'm not convinced he would make any other MLB roster at this point.

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 23:57 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:22 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:20 pm They were saying in ESPN tonight gracefully that Mikolas pitches to contact. In other words, he heaves it and hopes for at 'em balls.

He got 4 swinging strikes in his previous outing vs. the Angels.

If they cared about winning at all, they'd DFA him tomorrow. But they won't.

They could have maybe traded him for a filler piece, similar level mistake and gotten out of a little of his contract. But after this showing you couldn't give him away. He needed to be gone, but he has a good thing going, due to Mo's pride. So he was always going to invoke the NTC.

Players on the team see if you have a contract you play, no matter how bad your performance is. That has to end.

Even before yesterday, any GM who traded for him would likely face pitchforks the next day. As Patrick Corbin was languishing in the Rangers AAA system before an MLB injury had him called up a couple days ago, Mikolas was/is the worst starter in MLB.

This is just one of those (many) head scratchers from the FO that no one can understand.

Let's start a go fund me to DFA MM. We just need to raise 18 million minus the prorated 2 starts he made. What's 33/35 of 18 million? according to AI it's 33/35 of 18 million is approximately 16,971,429.

Too many wasted roster spots on this team, Mikolas being right at the top of the list.

If this truly is the year to find out about the "kids", then why waste a roster spot on an over-the-hill starter, a 28 yr career minor leaguer and a glove only CF'er (when you have a "kid" who can play defense almost as well while hitting and stealing bases better)?

More Mo poor roster management, he can't be gone soon enough (and take your lacky Manager w/you).

CCard wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 08:34 am

RichieRichSTL wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 23:57 pm

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:22 pm

icon wrote: ↑06 Apr 2025 22:20 pm They were saying in ESPN tonight gracefully that Mikolas pitches to contact. In other words, he heaves it and hopes for at 'em balls.

He got 4 swinging strikes in his previous outing vs. the Angels.

If they cared about winning at all, they'd DFA him tomorrow. But they won't.

They could have maybe traded him for a filler piece, similar level mistake and gotten out of a little of his contract. But after this showing you couldn't give him away. He needed to be gone, but he has a good thing going, due to Mo's pride. So he was always going to invoke the NTC.

Players on the team see if you have a contract you play, no matter how bad your performance is. That has to end.

Arguably the worst pitcher in baseball? I'm not sure you could get a bucket of balls for him. Or even a couple of balls to fondle. LOL Especially with that contract.

I'm looking at it this way. He had a really good year in 2018, a solid year in 2019, a very solid year in 2022 and a passable year in 2023. He has been an innings eater. Maybe a team would take a flyer on him if the risk was low. You know like basically pay 90% of his contract. MO could employ a league minimum pitcher in his place and save Grandpa 1M.

After yesterday's debacle, it confirms what many think. This looks more like a continued decline rather than a bounceback possibility.

sdaltons wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 10:38 am Yeah I'm not convinced he would make any other MLB roster at this point.

Not at this point.

JaseMan wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 11:04 am Let's start a go fund me to DFA MM. We just need to raise 18 million minus the prorated 2 starts he made. What's 33/35 of 18 million? according to AI it's 33/35 of 18 million is approximately 16,971,429.

So, he has already "earned" more than $1M of his contract.

There is small increment of improvement:

None of the usual moose drool -

" We like this team"

" Exit velocity shows true performance" (paraphrasing in the infamous Matt Carp FO defense).

- Lack of Mikolasss statement of excrement & fans and being the leader of the pitching staff.

The obvious of DFA Mikolass will never happen because it is obvious.

ilcubuffs wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 16:16 pm There is small increment of improvement:

None of the usual moose drool -

" We like this team"

" Exit velocity shows true performance" (paraphrasing in the infamous Matt Carp FO defense).

- Lack of Mikolasss statement of excrement & fans and being the leader of the pitching staff.

The obvious of DFA Mikolass will never happen because it is obvious.

The only way Mikolas gets DFA'ed is if Grandpa has had enough of him.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑07 Apr 2025 11:18 am Too many wasted roster spots on this team, Mikolas being right at the top of the list.

If this truly is the year to find out about the "kids", then why waste a roster spot on an over-the-hill starter, a 28 yr career minor leaguer and a glove only CF'er (when you have a "kid" who can play defense almost as well while hitting and stealing bases better)?

More Mo poor roster management, he can't be gone soon enough (and take your lacky Manager w/you).

Because these idiots have no clue how to put together a Winning Baseball team

I have no problem with DFAing him, but in his defense, he has been (going off of an aging memory) the type of pitcher who can pitch well one start & suck the next. You don't need them in the rotation going down the stretch, but he's had one decent one & one awful one. I personally think he's done, but he has been the kind of pitcher who can game plan & fine tune for a start or two.