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Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:28 pm**

Lightning Rod wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:06 pm
rockondlouie wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:45 am Stupid Oli the "cooler" at it again.

Sit Herrera:
4 HR
11 RBI
.400 .455 1.100 1.555

While playing WillyC at DH today:
0 HR
3 RBI
.071 .103 .107 .210

Moron
I might understand if WillyC was hitting into tough luck, hard outs, but the guy looks like dog doo doo at the plate.

I'm a big fan of WillyC's but there's no way you want to sit Hererra right now so he should've been at DH.

What Manager, other than Oli, has a history of sitting players right when they're on fire?

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:30 pm**

A wild guess ... Sunday game is nationally televised .. ESPN Sunday Night baseball . Cardinals probably already contacted about featuring Herrera ..interviews , etc. due to his 3 HR game .
Oli doesn't want to take the chance that Herrera gets a even a minor injury today .. foul ball off his hand , strain, contusion etc that would prevent him from playing .
Imagine ESPN Eduardo Perez having all the hype for Herrera and saying 'Too bad folks he got nicked up in Sat. game and he is unavailable for tonight's game ! We sure were looking forward to seeing him play tonight. The guy has been red hot ! '

Give Herrera a guaranteed national spotlight moment . He deserves it .

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:40 pm**

ramfandan wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:30 pm A wild guess ... Sunday game is nationally televised .. ESPN Sunday Night baseball . Cardinals probably already contacted about featuring Herrera ..interviews , etc. due to his 3 HR game .
Oli doesn't want to take the chance that Herrera gets a even a minor injury today .. foul ball off his hand , strain, contusion etc that would prevent him from playing .
Imagine ESPN Eduardo Perez having all the hype for Herrera and saying 'Too bad folks he got nicked up in Sat. game and he is unavailable for tonight's game ! We sure were looking forward to seeing him play tonight. The guy has been red hot ! '

Give Herrera a guaranteed national spotlight moment . He deserves it .

No. We don’t play like that. He ain’t sitting out to be ready for cameos.

As for the spotlight, a purposeful mention with replay would be nice.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:40 pm**

ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:36 am Maybe Pallante prefers Pages

Every pitcher on the team would rather turn to Pages than throw to Eephus.
Eephus has a hot bat but there is more to the game than that.
And the bat will determine how many games he starts - which will probably be around 100 but he will need to keep hitting to get there.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:43 pm**

imyourhuckleberry wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:32 am Unless he's got a boo boo we don't know about, it sure is a head scratcher. They just had a day off Thursday

this ^

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm**

Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:36 am Maybe Pallante prefers Pages
Every pitcher on the team would rather turn to Pages than throw to Eephus.
Eephus has a hot bat but there is more to the game than that.
And the bat will determine how many games he starts - which will probably be around 100 but he will need to keep hitting to get there.

Gray had a 2.53 era with Herrera last season and 5.62 era with pages

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:47 pm**

Will there be a game today? Looks like hours of rain.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 12:55 pm**

Why sit Herrera now? Either put him at C or DH. Ivan is killing it now.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 16:00 pm**

Wasn’t Thursday an off day??? Isn’t today Saturday????

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 16:06 pm**

MIDMOBIRDTWO wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:25 am Old Oli does what they tell him to. Apparently they came up with some theory that says he should not be in the lineup.

FWIW I doubt anyone plays today. That being said, Oli and Oli ALONE makes the lineup card. Both he and Mo have said that repeatedly. Plus, Mo's a lame duck at this point. Doubt he holds a lot of sway.

This is what I've said all offseason is one of the Cardinals biggest detriments to winning the division: overcoming the Olifactor.

Pretty difficult to go on sustained winning streaks when you constantly sit your hottest hitters for a "maintenance day." The guy's an idiot. I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt because Herrera may have an ailment, but Oli has admitted this as well over and over.

He's a F'n moron.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 16:19 pm**

ramfandan wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:30 pm A wild guess ... Sunday game is nationally televised .. ESPN Sunday Night baseball . Cardinals probably already contacted about featuring Herrera ..interviews , etc. due to his 3 HR game .
Oli doesn't want to take the chance that Herrera gets a even a minor injury today .. foul ball off his hand , strain, contusion etc that would prevent him from playing .
Imagine ESPN Eduardo Perez having all the hype for Herrera and saying 'Too bad folks he got nicked up in Sat. game and he is unavailable for tonight's game ! We sure were looking forward to seeing him play tonight. The guy has been red hot ! '

Give Herrera a guaranteed national spotlight moment . He deserves it .

Name any MLB player that you think a manager sits in order to please the press. Do they do this for Othani? Judge? Hell no and not in this case.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 16:40 pm**

they did the same last year with Winn if you remember....hot start, but didn't play every day.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 17:37 pm**

Game or no game I hope Bloom is taking mental notes on this. In case he even gets any wild hair about keeping Oli

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 17:38 pm**

Ozziesfan41 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:44 pm
Melville wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 12:40 pm
ecleme22 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 11:36 am Maybe Pallante prefers Pages
Every pitcher on the team would rather turn to Pages than throw to Eephus.
Eephus has a hot bat but there is more to the game than that.
And the bat will determine how many games he starts - which will probably be around 100 but he will need to keep hitting to get there.
Gray had a 2.53 era with Herrera last season and 5.62 era with pages

Yeah, but...

Again, this is a FO and player development problem. Not Herrera's. He's not great catcher material. Why wasn't this problem fixed in the minors? But as to right now, why the idolization of Burly as DH over Herrera by Marmol? Burly's ceiling is as low as the skies in STL this weekend.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 17:58 pm**

So does Herrera play now.

Posted: **05 Apr 2025 19:11 pm**

Banner29 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2025 17:37 pm Game or no game I hope Bloom is taking mental notes on this. In case he even gets any wild hair about keeping Oli

Me too.

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