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Cusecards wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 09:39 am I guess Bully is up today?
Kentucky Kid gets the day off? Maybe Web7 as backup?
Attention seeking....here’s my contribution!

Not enough.
Write more and more often.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

I'm becoming more optimistic since
he didn't Trade Arenado.
Hell, they might be buyers at the deadline!!

ecleme22 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 07:36 am

scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 07:31 am Wow...bipolar

Bipoloar? No.

No shame? Yeah.

You planted your stake in the ground, Bully. No room on the bandwagon, can't change your prediction...

What are ya talking about.
Someone at least admits to a mistake
and you (buzz) some more.
It would be nice to see you
fess up to the many horrible calls
made on here.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:55 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 03:16 am Yes, quite a weekend.
Full of nothing but a can of good old fashioned
Whoop A z z.
Lovely if I might say so myself.
Cards are back, no more talk of rebuilding and
they are looking to steam roll the other members
of this division.
Everyone had better revise their predictions.
Including me, I had them for 78 wins.
These guys look more like 90.

After 3 games?

Baseball is a marathon and not a sprint.

Yeah, but they look good.

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 10:37 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

I'm becoming more optimistic since
he didn't Trade Arenado.
Hell, they might be buyers at the deadline!!

That would be great, just as long as C. Bloom is doing the shopping and not Mo!

stormtime wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:33 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 03:16 am Yes, quite a weekend.
Full of nothing but a can of good old fashioned
Whoop A z z.
Lovely if I might say so myself.
Cards are back, no more talk of rebuilding and
they are looking to steam roll the other members
of this division.
Everyone had better revise their predictions.
Including me, I had them for 78 wins.
These guys look more like 90.

I might caution you to slow down just a tad. This is an impressive start that nobody saw coming. However, as I recall, they had a dynamite start in Toronto to begin '23......with claims of being able to play with the Braves coming up....only to suffer one of the worst seasons in recent Cardinal history.

I didn't think that was a dynamite start in 2023?
I can't remember, but they didn't sweep them.
And wasn't that series played here, not in
Canada?
I just don't recall, but I thought it was here in St. Louis.

Great weekend for the Cards, but lets temper our expectations. It was the Twins.

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 10:47 am Great weekend for the Cards, but lets temper our expectations. It was the Twins.

Are you kidding.
It's been so long since we've
been able to feel positive.
I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.
How many teams are undefeated?
Not many.

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 10:41 am

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:55 am

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 03:16 am Yes, quite a weekend.
Full of nothing but a can of good old fashioned
Whoop A z z.
Lovely if I might say so myself.
Cards are back, no more talk of rebuilding and
they are looking to steam roll the other members
of this division.
Everyone had better revise their predictions.
Including me, I had them for 78 wins.
These guys look more like 90.

After 3 games?

Baseball is a marathon and not a sprint.

Yeah, but they look good.

absolutely, they look good. But it's still only 3 games. I need to see a lot more before I revise my prediction, thank you very much.

Bully4you wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 10:50 am

Jobu's Rum wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 10:47 am Great weekend for the Cards, but lets temper our expectations. It was the Twins.

Are you kidding.
It's been so long since we've
been able to feel positive.
I'm enjoying the hell out of this one.
How many teams are undefeated?
Not many.

Thats why I said great weekend, very positive. They did exactly what they were supposed to do against the Twinkies. But they aren't exactly rolling top shelf pitching out there.

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

hullie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:35 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

I wonder Hullie, what if this team really does well and wins the NLC (and not dealing Helsley or Fedde), then would they consider trying to extend both?

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:40 am

hullie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:35 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

I wonder Hullie, what if this team really does well and wins the NLC (and not dealing Helsley or Fedde), then would they consider trying to extend both?

I honestly can’t see that happening. It’s not what they typically do especially with a closer.

hullie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:35 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

If they’re winning the division and they’re both putting up really good seasons, I don’t see how they deal them. And they might even extend them.

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:46 am

hullie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:35 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

If they’re winning the division and they’re both putting up really good seasons, I don’t see how they deal them. And they might even extend them.

Under no circumstances should they extend Arenado. He is under control thru 2027 already and will be 37 in 2028. Let him play out his contract at best.

On Helsley assuming he repeats last year OK but nothing long. Closers have a bad tendency of suddenly losing whatever made them special. Hesley could be an exception but vegas odds are against it.

AZ_Cardsfan wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:51 am

Futuregm2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:46 am

hullie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 11:35 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑31 Mar 2025 08:40 am I'll stick to this:

by rockondlouie » 25 Feb 2025 10:29 am

With NADO + Helsley + Fedde all season:

86 - 76

Without those three:

71 - 91

Even if they gave a great season you can’t just let them walk at seasons end. Nado is a different case.

If they’re winning the division and they’re both putting up really good seasons, I don’t see how they deal them. And they might even extend them.

Under no circumstances should they extend Arenado. He is under control thru 2027 already and will be 37 in 2028. Let him play out his contract at best.

On Helsley assuming he repeats last year OK but nothing long. Closers have a bad tendency of suddenly losing whatever made them special. Hesley could be an exception but vegas odds are against it.

Well I didn’t think they were talking Nado, it was more Fedde/Helsley. I think if Fedde proves last year was no fluke, then maybe a 3-4 year deal could happen. He’ll be 32 years old all year this year, so 33 when he starts the new deal. I think a lot could depend on how Mathews/McGreevy progress and how Liberatore does.

Not sure about Helsley. He’s an elite closer when healthy, but like you said closers can fall off out of nowhere and he’s got injury question marks already.

We’ll see how the season plays out.