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Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:07 pm
by kscardsfan
Tuesday the 29th day game. May have to skip golf that day.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:11 pm
by An Old Friend
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:52 pm
jcgmoi wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:44 pm
laughable he's at AA
Then he should tear it up there and get bumped to AAA in a month. His development won't be hurt by facing AA pitchers and neither will his path to the bigs.
Sad a top draft pick at age 23, can't make, what many, on CT, think is a bad Cards team. Not even the AAA team
You’ve gone full looney tunes.

Even AA is mildly aggressive.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:16 pm
by Ronnie Dobbs
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Mar 2025 20:11 pmYou’ve gone full looney tunes.

Even AA is mildly aggressive.
Yea, I wouldn't have batted an eye if they started him at high A this season.

I believe in JJ, and I think he'll rise to the challenge, but the Cardinals have had problems being a bit too aggressive with their higher level prospects in the past. We've talked about the problems with developing our young players, so maybe letting them get some experience at each leval isn't the worst thing.

But JJ definitely seems like a guy that is up to this kind of task. I hope so.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:17 pm
by Melville
redbirdfan51 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:17 pm Double A is about right for JJ at htis early stage of his career.
Correct baseball decision.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:35 pm
by An Old Friend
Ronnie Dobbs wrote: 24 Mar 2025 20:16 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Mar 2025 20:11 pmYou’ve gone full looney tunes.

Even AA is mildly aggressive.
Yea, I wouldn't have batted an eye if they started him at high A this season.

I believe in JJ, and I think he'll rise to the challenge, but the Cardinals have had problems being a bit too aggressive with their higher level prospects in the past. We've talked about the problems with developing our young players, so maybe letting them get some experience at each leval isn't the worst thing.

But JJ definitely seems like a guy that is up to this kind of task. I hope so.
Sure. I just disagree with the placement. Let him go rake at high-A for a minute to prove he’s ready. It hurts nothing.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 20:51 pm
by ramfandan
This is excellent news on Wetherholt and goes along with what several scouts predicted .. Opening at Palm Beach Low A , they said if JJ looked good (which he did ) that they would probably skip him over HighA - Peoria in Year 2 and move him right to AA -Springfield. The pitching at AA is so much better than Peoria and they want him to face better pitchers at this point. (Knocking around High A guys doesn't do much for development.

His hitting skills is above that level currently . He needs a better challenge facing pitchers with a better arsenal of breaking pitches, etc.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 21:00 pm
by Clubmaker2
and bench time at mlb is not how you develop players. With Burly that is 4 outfielders that need to play with Siani riding pine or late defense.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 21:30 pm
by Bushiro
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:45 pm Pathetic...he should be at AAA.
Why? You feel he is a nearly finished product after 105 minor league ABs?
He should be at AAA....with his hit tool and talent level ....i don't think he will be in AA to long...

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 21:38 pm
by imyourhuckleberry
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:45 pm Pathetic...he should be at AAA.
Dramatic.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 21:59 pm
by Clubmaker2
some of the youngest most talented are young up and comers in AA with some AAA slots full of older 4A players. Not uncommon.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Futuregm2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 16:48 pm Sweet, good to hear. I hope he’s still there when the Cardinals come to Frisco in early June.
He won't be.
Neither will they.
The Cardinals and the Giants play in September.
I will be there, although reasons may be suspect at that point.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 22:20 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
An Old Friend wrote: 24 Mar 2025 20:11 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:52 pm
jcgmoi wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:44 pm
laughable he's at AA
Then he should tear it up there and get bumped to AAA in a month. His development won't be hurt by facing AA pitchers and neither will his path to the bigs.
Sad a top draft pick at age 23, can't make, what many, on CT, think is a bad Cards team. Not even the AAA team
You’ve gone full looney tunes.

Even AA is mildly aggressive.
Certifiable.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 22:40 pm
by Futuregm2
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 24 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 16:48 pm Sweet, good to hear. I hope he’s still there when the Cardinals come to Frisco in early June.
He won't be.
Neither will they.
The Cardinals and the Giants play in September.
I will be there, although reasons may be suspect at that point.
Frisco, TX (Springfield facing the Roughriders) not San Francisco :wink:

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 24 Mar 2025 22:50 pm
by imetsatchelpaige
Futuregm2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 22:40 pm
imetsatchelpaige wrote: 24 Mar 2025 22:19 pm
Futuregm2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 16:48 pm Sweet, good to hear. I hope he’s still there when the Cardinals come to Frisco in early June.
He won't be.
Neither will they.
The Cardinals and the Giants play in September.
I will be there, although reasons may be suspect at that point.
Frisco, TX (Springfield facing the Roughriders) not San Francisco :wink:
Ah. I stand (and sit) corrected!

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 25 Mar 2025 06:52 am
by Monsieur De Treville
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:25 pm
Monsieur De Treville wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:16 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 17:45 pm Pathetic...he should be at AAA.
Why? You feel he is a nearly finished product after 105 minor league ABs?
He thinks college was his minor leagues and he should have started the season in the majors lol
Well, it typically doesn't work that way. Of course, there are a few exceptions.

Re: JJ Wetherholt starts 2025 in AA Springfield

Posted: 25 Mar 2025 06:54 am
by Monsieur De Treville
scoutyjones2 wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:52 pm
jcgmoi wrote: 24 Mar 2025 18:44 pm
laughable he's at AA
Then he should tear it up there and get bumped to AAA in a month. His development won't be hurt by facing AA pitchers and neither will his path to the bigs.
Sad a top draft pick at age 23, can't make, what many, on CT, think is a bad Cards team. Not even the AAA team
It's not sad...it extremely typical and it's called "development". Let's make sure this kid is ready. Let's try to do this the right way.