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craviduce wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:13 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:53 pm

hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:07 pm

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:04 pm Walker seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. Says all the right things. But let's face it...he's a dumpster fire at the plate. Didn't hit AAA or MLB pitching at all last season and has not hit a lick this spring.

And the Cards are going to just hand him a job?
They either know something we don't or they're incredibly stupid.

So I put it to you fine folks. How would you handle Walker? What would your plan be for the youngster who is still only 22 years old?

I know what I'd do...I send him to Memphis. Tell him he is the everyday right fielder. Tell him to have fun and not worry about the stats. Tell him his priority is to simply hit hard line drives. After a couple of months I evaluate and go from there. There is no way that right now he needs to be playing in St Louis. Does him or the team no favors.

Same as Gorman, MEMPHIS bound for both.

Thy should be. There are better options right now.

What are the better options? And then, why are we trying to compete in 2025? It's a reset...and, imo, there's not any better options for the OF in the minors. You either let him try and figure it out at the Major League level or you trade him. Sending him to Memphis is the same as Keeping him St. Louis this season. Do you want him facing Major League pitching or AAA pitching with Zero modern developmental tools at Memphis? He'll learn more with the big league club...and if he struggles, who cares? You all know we aren't trying to compete...then why are we STILL trying make moves/lineups/etc to squeeze out a win that just isn't there? So I guess if you want him in Memphis, that means you want to hide him....that doesn't help him. Again, if we had the infrastructure to deal with his ails, then I'd be for it. Let's stay the course with the "let the kids play to see what we have". Letting Barrero or Fermin get major league AB's over Walker in 2025 isn't the answer...short term nor long term.

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:47 pm What to do with Walker? You start him, and you play him. You let him work it out. He's still pretty much equivalent to a rookie. Stop jerking the kid around and give him the OPPORTUNITY to find a rythem and a groove.

TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:41 pm He’s 22!
The guys is going to be a monster.
He comps in many ways to Aaron Judge.
I am baffled at the impatience here in this chat group.
He’s already done some spectacular things in his rookie year with his hit streak and strong stats.
He was mishandled last year and it just needs to be written off as a sophomore slump and part of the growing pains / learning curve.
There is a reason he was ranked in the top three prospects in all of baseball just a couple years ago. He’s going to be just fine.
Double down on Jordan and bat him higher up in the lineup is what should be done.

imadangman wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:53 pm

TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:41 pm He’s 22!
The guys is going to be a monster.
He comps in many ways to Aaron Judge.
I am baffled at the impatience here in this chat group.
He’s already done some spectacular things in his rookie year with his hit streak and strong stats.
He was mishandled last year and it just needs to be written off as a sophomore slump and part of the growing pains / learning curve.
There is a reason he was ranked in the top three prospects in all of baseball just a couple years ago. He’s going to be just fine.
Double down on Jordan and bat him higher up in the lineup is what should be done.

I agree. His rookie season he hit .276 with a 115 ops+, 16 hr and 51 rbi. Nobody would call that a failure at face value. And that was ONE year ago.

RamFan08NY wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:47 pm What to do with Walker? You start him, and you play him. You let him work it out. He's still pretty much equivalent to a rookie. Stop jerking the kid around and give him the OPPORTUNITY to find a rythem and a groove.

Goldfan wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:57 pm

imadangman wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:53 pm

TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:41 pm He’s 22!
The guys is going to be a monster.
He comps in many ways to Aaron Judge.
I am baffled at the impatience here in this chat group.
He’s already done some spectacular things in his rookie year with his hit streak and strong stats.
He was mishandled last year and it just needs to be written off as a sophomore slump and part of the growing pains / learning curve.
There is a reason he was ranked in the top three prospects in all of baseball just a couple years ago. He’s going to be just fine.
Double down on Jordan and bat him higher up in the lineup is what should be done.

I agree. His rookie season he hit .276 with a 115 ops+, 16 hr and 51 rbi. Nobody would call that a failure at face value. And that was ONE year ago.

And now they have a book on him.

Goldfan wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:57 pm

imadangman wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:53 pm

TheFantasyStud wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:41 pm He’s 22!
The guys is going to be a monster.
He comps in many ways to Aaron Judge.
I am baffled at the impatience here in this chat group.
He’s already done some spectacular things in his rookie year with his hit streak and strong stats.
He was mishandled last year and it just needs to be written off as a sophomore slump and part of the growing pains / learning curve.
There is a reason he was ranked in the top three prospects in all of baseball just a couple years ago. He’s going to be just fine.
Double down on Jordan and bat him higher up in the lineup is what should be done.

I agree. His rookie season he hit .276 with a 115 ops+, 16 hr and 51 rbi. Nobody would call that a failure at face value. And that was ONE year ago.

And now they have a book on him.

riff raff wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:53 pm

hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:07 pm

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:04 pm Walker seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. Says all the right things. But let's face it...he's a dumpster fire at the plate. Didn't hit AAA or MLB pitching at all last season and has not hit a lick this spring.

And the Cards are going to just hand him a job?
They either know something we don't or they're incredibly stupid.

So I put it to you fine folks. How would you handle Walker? What would your plan be for the youngster who is still only 22 years old?

I know what I'd do...I send him to Memphis. Tell him he is the everyday right fielder. Tell him to have fun and not worry about the stats. Tell him his priority is to simply hit hard line drives. After a couple of months I evaluate and go from there. There is no way that right now he needs to be playing in St Louis. Does him or the team no favors.

Same as Gorman, MEMPHIS bound for both.

Thy should be. There are better options right now.

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:04 pm Walker seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. Says all the right things. But let's face it...he's a dumpster fire at the plate. Didn't hit AAA or MLB pitching at all last season and has not hit a lick this spring.

And the Cards are going to just hand him a job?
They either know something we don't or they're incredibly stupid.

So I put it to you fine folks. How would you handle Walker? What would your plan be for the youngster who is still only 22 years old?

I know what I'd do...I send him to Memphis. Tell him he is the everyday right fielder. Tell him to have fun and not worry about the stats. Tell him his priority is to simply hit hard line drives. After a couple of months I evaluate and go from there. There is no way that right now he needs to be playing in St Louis. Does him or the team no favors.

craviduce wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 15:13 pm

riff raff wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:53 pm

hilton head is 4 idiots wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:07 pm

Monsieur De Treville wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 14:04 pm Walker seems like a good kid who wants to succeed. Says all the right things. But let's face it...he's a dumpster fire at the plate. Didn't hit AAA or MLB pitching at all last season and has not hit a lick this spring.

And the Cards are going to just hand him a job?
They either know something we don't or they're incredibly stupid.

So I put it to you fine folks. How would you handle Walker? What would your plan be for the youngster who is still only 22 years old?

I know what I'd do...I send him to Memphis. Tell him he is the everyday right fielder. Tell him to have fun and not worry about the stats. Tell him his priority is to simply hit hard line drives. After a couple of months I evaluate and go from there. There is no way that right now he needs to be playing in St Louis. Does him or the team no favors.

Same as Gorman, MEMPHIS bound for both.

Thy should be. There are better options right now.

What are the better options? And then, why are we trying to compete in 2025? It's a reset...and, imo, there's not any better options for the OF in the minors. You either let him try and figure it out at the Major League level or you trade him. Sending him to Memphis is the same as Keeping him St. Louis this season. Do you want him facing Major League pitching or AAA pitching with Zero modern developmental tools at Memphis? He'll learn more with the big league club...and if he struggles, who cares? You all know we aren't trying to compete...then why are we STILL trying make moves/lineups/etc to squeeze out a win that just isn't there? So I guess if you want him in Memphis, that means you want to hide him....that doesn't help him. Again, if we had the infrastructure to deal with his ails, then I'd be for it. Let's stay the course with the "let the kids play to see what we have". Letting Barrero or Fermin get major league AB's over Walker in 2025 isn't the answer...short term nor long term.

ForumPolice wrote: ↑18 Mar 2025 16:50 pm Well if you would come to grips with reality that the Cardinals are a non-contender this season then you would not care if they gave 162 games to Gorman and Walker. This year is for nothing else