Bloom will listen to interest for Donovan and Noot

[renostl]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

There’s always the chance bloom grabs a short term 3b.

Saggese.

Cranny, what year do you think it would be acceptable to hope for more than a body to put in a Cards uniform? At least for the 9 starters could we possibly strive for at least GOOD player…..I won’t even say GREAT…..that would be too much of a reach

Saggese’s a GOOD player. Just needs a chance.

Saggese's most likely chance IMO is in BD's
original role.
That's a decent opportunity for him. He also benefit if he could add some strength.
JJ will get the biggest, longest opportunity. It's just how baseball works and has worked forever.
Where? Bloom knows and nothing would shock me. He once preferred Story at SS. Is JJ closer to Story than Winn? No idea how it plays out but it brings clarity
to the options including Saggese.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

There’s always the chance bloom grabs a short term 3b.

Saggese.

Cranny, what year do you think it would be acceptable to hope for more than a body to put in a Cards uniform? At least for the 9 starters could we possibly strive for at least GOOD player…..I won’t even say GREAT…..that would be too much of a reach

Saggese’s a GOOD player. Just needs a chance.

Saggese's most likely chance IMO is in BD's
original role.
That's a decent opportunity for him. He also benefit if he could add some strength.
JJ will get the biggest, longest opportunity. It's just how baseball works and has worked forever.
Where? Bloom knows and nothing would shock me. He once preferred Story at SS. Is JJ closer to Story than Winn? No idea how it plays out but it brings clarity
to the options including Saggese.

Nice work. Good early morning.

In my mind, why are we even talking about our 26 th roster spot. On a middling team. Shows how far we are, and that includes the fan base.

Tainted.

[ScotchMIrish]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

[ScotchMIrish]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

2b is probably JJ’s. The team won’t move him around much.

Donovan is probably gone.

Could be but then why did he only play 20 games at 2B in 2025 at AA and AAA if the plan is for him to play 2B in St Louis?

[sikeston bulldog2]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

2b is probably JJ’s. The team won’t move him around much.

Donovan is probably gone.

Could be but then why did he only play 20 games at 2B in 2025 at AA and AAA if the plan is for him to play 2B in St Louis?

Maybe they want to try third.

[ecleme22]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

2b is probably JJ’s. The team won’t move him around much.

Donovan is probably gone.

Could be but then why did he only play 20 games at 2B in 2025 at AA and AAA if the plan is for him to play 2B in St Louis?

You could be right.

[Melville]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

[Cranny]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Smartest thing you ever said. Gorman at third is horrible.

[Melville]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

[ecleme22]

Some CTers: "Please don't put Gorman at 3B in 2026! He will be horrible!"

Here's a little secret: If Gorman is an absolute dumpster fire at 3B defense——stay with me———Gorman can be moved off 3B.

Don't worry. In the event NA is traded, Oli and Bloom will not print out 150 lineup cards with NG playing 3B...

[Cranny]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Undetermined.
Never been tried.
Like it or not, he is the best option currently available once STL trades N/A again.
90% chance Bloom keeps him for 2026.
Watch and learn.

I’ve grown to learn from many people. You’re just not one of them. There’s something definitely wrong with someone who keeps up your “schtick” even when being called down by so many posters. Do you really have that great of a need for attention?

[Bomber1]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

2b is probably JJ’s. The team won’t move him around much.

Donovan is probably gone.

Could be but then why did he only play 20 games at 2B in 2025 at AA and AAA if the plan is for him to play 2B in St Louis?

How many games did he play at 3B?

[Bomber1]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

Agree. I think it will all fall on if Donovan is traded or not. Arenado is going to be gone. If Donovan is traded JJ will probably play second and we we will probably be stuck watching Gorman suck at the plate and at third for another season. If they keep Donovan he will play Second Gorman will most likely will be traded and JJ will play third

Sounds likely. Not sure how much we would get in return for Gorman. Maybe he stays as a backup to fill in for injuries? Probably best to see if Wetherholt can handle MLB pitching before we stipulate to him being the man.

Which is why I have correctly advised retaining Donovan until July.
Trade Nootbaar and Walker as part of the restart.
Move Donovan to LF.
Gorman at 3b and Wetherholt at 2b.
Donovan becomes insurance for both spots.
If all is going well by July, then trade Donovan.
Easy.
Obvious.
Correct.

Difficult
Oblique
In Error

Gorman isn’t the answer at 3B.

Smartest thing you ever said. Gorman at third is horrible.

Gorman anywhere is horrible.

Defensively his nickname should be “Clank”.

Offensively his nickname should be “Suck”.

I really hope he’s gone before Spring Training.

And I don’t care what the return is.

Simply put, enough of Gorman who’s had 1700 ML Plate Appearances to “prove himself”. And all he’s proven is that he’s not a ML player.

[AZ_Cardsfan]

Bloom is listening on EVERY player. There is no "franchise" level player with the "potential" chance JJ becomes one.

Turnover is a good thing and let him wheel and deal is my hope.

[ScotchMIrish]

Wait a minute. At the press conference with DeWitt I heard Bloom said no shortcuts. Now he wants to trade Donovan?

Of course. He’s not a tent pole player.

Gold glove at second base. 5th highest OPS in MLB at second base. 28 years old. You win by having better players at each position on the field.

I'd like to see who they are going to trade him for.

Even if what you say is true, going into next season he might be the second best second baseman on his own team.

Wetherholt played 20 games at second base this season. He could be the next superstar or he could be the next Caglianone.

Be that as it may, it's entirely possible that if Donovan is still here next season, he might be the second best second baseman on the team. Not a sure thing, but not far-fetched either.

Wetherholt made 12 errors in 105 games at SS, 2b and 3b. Donovan made 4 errors in 100 games at 2b. I wouldn't be surprised if Arenado is traded and 3b becomes open with Wetherholt getting a look in spring training there but I doubt he will replace Donovan at 2B if Donovan is still on the team.

2b is probably JJ’s. The team won’t move him around much.

Donovan is probably gone.

Could be but then why did he only play 20 games at 2B in 2025 at AA and AAA if the plan is for him to play 2B in St Louis?

How many games did he play at 3B?

12.