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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT
Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:50 pm
by Mort Gage
cbcloud wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 16:43 pm
illinik wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 16:28 pm
Bomber1 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...
Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.
If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
As Al said in the postgame, you try to get to 5 runs so a grand slam doesn't tie it. Absolutely nothing wrong with stealing third base there. And likewise, no problem with walking Busch because you want to keep it a four run lead. Both made sense. WE all saw why in the 9th. Grand slam would have tied it.
...Swanson was already in scoring position with his double with only 1 out. He risked getting injured on the steal, or being out on the challenge. Even with a Shaw K and 2 outs, Busch likely would have been pitched to, unless Swanson was out on the attempted steal, and then the inning would have been over, withoug Busch coming to bat. The steal wasn't necessary, and risky.
It may not have been necessary but they were playing for home field. There was one out and a four run lead can evaporate quickly. A groundout or SF gets them to five. I liked the steal from the Cubs' perspective. No need to be nice in that situation.
Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT
Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:58 pm
by 82birds
Mort Gage wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 16:50 pm
cbcloud wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 16:43 pm
illinik wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 16:28 pm
Bomber1 wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: ↑27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...
Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.
If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
As Al said in the postgame, you try to get to 5 runs so a grand slam doesn't tie it. Absolutely nothing wrong with stealing third base there. And likewise, no problem with walking Busch because you want to keep it a four run lead. Both made sense. WE all saw why in the 9th. Grand slam would have tied it.
...Swanson was already in scoring position with his double with only 1 out. He risked getting injured on the steal, or being out on the challenge. Even with a Shaw K and 2 outs, Busch likely would have been pitched to, unless Swanson was out on the attempted steal, and then the inning would have been over, withoug Busch coming to bat. The steal wasn't necessary, and risky.
It may not have been necessary but they were playing for home field. There was one out and a four run lead can evaporate quickly. A groundout or SF gets them to five. I liked the steal from the Cubs' perspective. No need to be nice in that situation.
agree with ya Mort
Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT
Posted: 27 Sep 2025 19:50 pm
by cbcloud
...Good discussion. Valid points on both sides. We need more of that on CT...