Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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theograce wrote: 06 May 2025 12:18 pm
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 12:15 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 06 May 2025 11:30 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 09:05 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 09:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 05:43 am
Any assist Kyrou gets is a bonus as being a playmaker is not his job. I’d rather have him shooting than dishing.
You've officially lost all Kyrou debates in perpetuity, with this absurdly stupid comment defending 2 measly assists in 28 playoff games.

F'ing Garth Butcher has a higher assist rate in the playoffs. That's not an exaggeration, but a sobering fact.
Ok sparky. Whatever you say :roll:

If he were passing and getting assists you all would be yelling why doesn’t he shoot more??
That's the argument that the

I D I O T

uses against Buchnevich, who is a ppg player in the playoffs as a Blue....

Goals NEED assists- 95% of the time, or do you know something different?
Sure they do. A point is a point, the puck went in. Kyrou is paid to finish not set up. Maybe he could have got 1 or 2 but didn’t in a 7 game sample size. Not indicative of his overall game. He led the team in shots game 7, that’s right where I want him.
Playing with Schenn as his C. Not the best option.
And Neighbours on the other side. No offense to Jake but he’s not scaring the opponent as much as Jordan, plus neither of those two are what you’d call a playmaker. At least before Holloway got hurt they had to account for him as well.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Bacchk29 wrote: 06 May 2025 12:24 pm You’re giving up too much for Power he’s a bust at this point in his career.
Younger and more advanced/accomplished than Broberg. Is he a bust too?
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 12:15 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 06 May 2025 11:30 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 09:05 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 09:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 05:43 am
Any assist Kyrou gets is a bonus as being a playmaker is not his job. I’d rather have him shooting than dishing.
You've officially lost all Kyrou debates in perpetuity, with this absurdly stupid comment defending 2 measly assists in 28 playoff games.

F'ing Garth Butcher has a higher assist rate in the playoffs. That's not an exaggeration, but a sobering fact.
Ok sparky. Whatever you say :roll:

If he were passing and getting assists you all would be yelling why doesn’t he shoot more??
That's the argument that the

I D I O T

uses against Buchnevich, who is a ppg player in the playoffs as a Blue....

Goals NEED assists- 95% of the time, or do you know something different?
Sure they do. A point is a point, the puck went in. Kyrou is paid to finish not set up. Maybe he could have got 1 or 2 but didn’t in a 7 game sample size. Not indicative of his overall game. He led the team in shots game 7, that’s right where I want him.
In a 28 game sample... he has two assists in the playoffs.
Is that a large enough sample to "qualify"?
That is 6 assists in a full season- if the season has playoff intensity.

Here are his complete playoff Point totals and plus minus
NHL (4 Yrs) 28 11 2 13 -12
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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Harry York 37 wrote: 06 May 2025 12:29 pm
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 12:15 pm
Harry York 37 wrote: 06 May 2025 11:30 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 09:05 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 09:00 am
netboy65 wrote: 06 May 2025 05:43 am
Any assist Kyrou gets is a bonus as being a playmaker is not his job. I’d rather have him shooting than dishing.
You've officially lost all Kyrou debates in perpetuity, with this absurdly stupid comment defending 2 measly assists in 28 playoff games.

F'ing Garth Butcher has a higher assist rate in the playoffs. That's not an exaggeration, but a sobering fact.
Ok sparky. Whatever you say :roll:

If he were passing and getting assists you all would be yelling why doesn’t he shoot more??
That's the argument that the

I D I O T

uses against Buchnevich, who is a ppg player in the playoffs as a Blue....

Goals NEED assists- 95% of the time, or do you know something different?
Sure they do. A point is a point, the puck went in. Kyrou is paid to finish not set up. Maybe he could have got 1 or 2 but didn’t in a 7 game sample size. Not indicative of his overall game. He led the team in shots game 7, that’s right where I want him.
In a 28 game sample... he has two assists in the playoffs.
Is that a large enough sample to "qualify"?
That is 6 assists in a full season- if the season has playoff intensity.

Here are his complete playoff Point totals and plus minus
NHL (4 Yrs) 28 11 2 13 -12
He’s got 11 goals, that’s what sticks out to me. That means someone else got the helper. What’s with the assist fetish all of a sudden? Kyrou doesn’t have assists but has goals, Buch doesn’t have goals but has assists. The puck still went in.
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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bud white wrote: 06 May 2025 11:55 am
Lloyd Braun wrote: 06 May 2025 11:01 am The only two players to play more than three games and not get an assist were Kyrou and Binnington.
Binnington had a couple of 3rd assists. I know he was 3rd assist on the Schenn wrister in Game 6.
Yeah, Binner was outstanding. A puck-handling 3rd defenseman, in addition to being last line of defense as goalie.

Kyrou: 0 assists in a series, when every other skater had one.

1 EV point. He had 0 EV points playing with Schenn and Neighbours. Even though Neighbours had 5 EV points and Schenn had 2 EV points, as well as defenseman that had 5 points with the Neighbours/Schenn line (Faulk, Fowler, Parayko 2, Suter).

2 assists in 28 games. I mean, he has to be not even trying to achieve such an impossibly low total. As I pointed above, even Garth Butcher accidently had a better assist rate in the playoffs and he was a purely defensive defenseman.

In 7 seasons, he has more regular seasons assists than goals. So that should be expected to be somewhat similar in the playoffs. The fact that he just disappears complete from the assist stat sheet, points to a big problem that is clearly effort related.

People are pointing to injury. Saying he looked different. What injury? He looked the same to me. He almost always plays that timid, passively, and with lack of effort. The rarity is when he shows passion and effort for a full game, but its certainly not the norm.

And if he was "injured", what was the excuse in the other 21 playoff games that he had only 2 assists?
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Re: Hopefully that was Kyrou’s last game as a Blue

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a smell of green grass wrote: 05 May 2025 21:21 pm
Red7 wrote: 05 May 2025 20:08 pm Kyrou will not be traded. In fact, it’s in Steen’s contract he is not allowed to trade him. He is the apple of Army’s eye. He is the prototype for Army’s international type of player. Army longs for the day when ALL NHL players are Jordan Kyrou. Mark my word: Monty will be fired before Kyrou is traded.
Just ask my sock, Douglas Armstrong.

No-trade-clauses can be gotten around easily enough. Armstrong would trade his mother with a NTC. Just ask Saad. A little public humiliation and private arm-twisting is all that it takes. If you recall, Armstrong was actively pursuing a trade of our Captain with a NTC just moments before our playoff run.

If Armstrong doesn't trade Kyrou, it's because it can't be done without also bringing humiliation to Armstrong.
Public humiliation is a good call when trying to sign FA’s or to get players to waive their NTC to come to St. Louis. Good call!
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