Mails shouldn’t be in the NHL right now

[MiamiLaw]

Tucker should be better than Mailloux right now, as should Kessel.

It's not the point but it actually proves the point.

Is Mailloux progressing or not? Can he continue, game to game week to week? In time...an appropriate period of time....will his dominating attributes come to fruition...or not.

Step one.....he is definitely progressing with his game. I've recently seen enough Blue defenders get trashed here and become mainstay players elsewhere because of a total lack of patience....Mikkola, Dunn, Walman and ALL given far more time and were still disregarded on this board by the impatient.

To say nothing of 39 games.

I certainly didn't lack patience with any of those players. They are gone because of the choices of Armstrong.

There are no 2 ways about it, he grossly mismanaged this teams d

Absolutely! It was Army’s choice to not protect Dunn and protect Sundqvist in the Seattle draft. Walman or Mikkola have bounced around before they stuck with a team.

You couldn't swap out Dunn with Sundqvist. The rules were teams could protect eight skaters and a goaltender, or seven forwards, three defensemen, and a goaltender. Who else are you going to take off the list than just Sundqvist?

Krug should have been exposed. Army had some beef going on with Dunn's agent and I really think it clouded his judgment on Dunn.

Krug should have never been here in the first place.

For sure, but that's a-whole-nother thing

[dhsux]

Tucker should be better than Mailloux right now, as should Kessel.

It's not the point but it actually proves the point.

Is Mailloux progressing or not? Can he continue, game to game week to week? In time...an appropriate period of time....will his dominating attributes come to fruition...or not.

Step one.....he is definitely progressing with his game. I've recently seen enough Blue defenders get trashed here and become mainstay players elsewhere because of a total lack of patience....Mikkola, Dunn, Walman and ALL given far more time and were still disregarded on this board by the impatient.

To say nothing of 39 games.

I certainly didn't lack patience with any of those players. They are gone because of the choices of Armstrong.

There are no 2 ways about it, he grossly mismanaged this teams d

I'm referring to posters on this board.

Heard the same about those guys most all well after 150 games plus played as we are about Mailloux right now.

[somni]

Tucker should be better than Mailloux right now, as should Kessel.

It's not the point but it actually proves the point.

Is Mailloux progressing or not? Can he continue, game to game week to week? In time...an appropriate period of time....will his dominating attributes come to fruition...or not.

Step one.....he is definitely progressing with his game. I've recently seen enough Blue defenders get trashed here and become mainstay players elsewhere because of a total lack of patience....Mikkola, Dunn, Walman and ALL given far more time and were still disregarded on this board by the impatient.

To say nothing of 39 games.

I certainly didn't lack patience with any of those players. They are gone because of the choices of Armstrong.

There are no 2 ways about it, he grossly mismanaged this teams d

Absolutely! It was Army’s choice to not protect Dunn and protect Sundqvist in the Seattle draft. Walman or Mikkola have bounced around before they stuck with a team.

You couldn't swap out Dunn with Sundqvist. The rules were teams could protect eight skaters and a goaltender, or seven forwards, three defensemen, and a goaltender. Who else are you going to take off the list than just Sundqvist?

Krug should have been exposed. Army had some beef going on with Dunn's agent and I really think it clouded his judgment on Dunn.

First I heard of that.

Overall, the years after the Cup really had some bad luck. First covid, then the dumb expansion draft. Just bad timing on a well built team at the time.

Is what it is.

[skilles]

Tucker should be better than Mailloux right now, as should Kessel.

It's not the point but it actually proves the point.

Is Mailloux progressing or not? Can he continue, game to game week to week? In time...an appropriate period of time....will his dominating attributes come to fruition...or not.

Step one.....he is definitely progressing with his game. I've recently seen enough Blue defenders get trashed here and become mainstay players elsewhere because of a total lack of patience....Mikkola, Dunn, Walman and ALL given far more time and were still disregarded on this board by the impatient.

To say nothing of 39 games.

I certainly didn't lack patience with any of those players. They are gone because of the choices of Armstrong.

There are no 2 ways about it, he grossly mismanaged this teams d

I'm referring to posters on this board.

Heard the same about those guys most all well after 150 games plus played as we are about Mailloux right now.

I personally think Mailloux has been treated pretty kindly considering.

[skilles]

Tucker should be better than Mailloux right now, as should Kessel.

It's not the point but it actually proves the point.

Is Mailloux progressing or not? Can he continue, game to game week to week? In time...an appropriate period of time....will his dominating attributes come to fruition...or not.

Step one.....he is definitely progressing with his game. I've recently seen enough Blue defenders get trashed here and become mainstay players elsewhere because of a total lack of patience....Mikkola, Dunn, Walman and ALL given far more time and were still disregarded on this board by the impatient.

To say nothing of 39 games.

I certainly didn't lack patience with any of those players. They are gone because of the choices of Armstrong.

There are no 2 ways about it, he grossly mismanaged this teams d

Absolutely! It was Army’s choice to not protect Dunn and protect Sundqvist in the Seattle draft. Walman or Mikkola have bounced around before they stuck with a team.

You couldn't swap out Dunn with Sundqvist. The rules were teams could protect eight skaters and a goaltender, or seven forwards, three defensemen, and a goaltender. Who else are you going to take off the list than just Sundqvist?

Krug should have been exposed. Army had some beef going on with Dunn's agent and I really think it clouded his judgment on Dunn.

First I heard of that.

Overall, the years after the Cup really had some bad luck. First covid, then the dumb expansion draft. Just bad timing on a well built team at the time.

Is what it is.

Yeah some bad luck and a ton of mistakes.

[BalotelliMassive]

He just signed a one year deal...

[MandatoryDenial]

He just signed a one year deal...

Yeah 850k for one year. Low risk. I guess we are giving him one more year to figure out how to play d. I hope they give him a personal coach to take him under their wings as we have him m now, what do we lose by trying.

[MiamiLaw]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

[MikoTython]

He just signed a one year deal...

Yeah 850k for one year. Low risk. I guess we are giving him one more year to figure out how to play d. I hope they give him a personal coach to take him under their wings as we have him m now, what do we lose by trying.

The 1 year deal means, I suppose, mgmt is hedging on his prospects at this point... Why not a 2-3 year deal at his relatively low rate ? Not much of a vote of confidence. He'll be an RFA next year.

[skilles]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

Which would be fine had we traded a 2nd round pick for him which was about the right value/risk IMO.

I like the kid, I don't really see any problems with his effort or anything, Just whether he has the instincts to be a prominent NHL d man

[Jeff Goldblum]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

Faulk and parayko turn the puck over too. Every defenseman makes mistakes throughout a game. If you focus on only them then you will see something you dont like. Especially when you have an agenda.

[MiamiLaw]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

Which would be fine had we traded a 2nd round pick for him which was about the right value/risk IMO.

I like the kid, I don't really see any problems with his effort or anything, Just whether he has the instincts to be a prominent NHL d man

I don’t think he’d be playing if we traded a 2nd for him…we’re talking league worst stats/metrics right now.

[Bluesfan1978]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

Which would be fine had we traded a 2nd round pick for him which was about the right value/risk IMO.

I like the kid, I don't really see any problems with his effort or anything, Just whether he has the instincts to be a prominent NHL d man

I don’t think he’d be playing if we traded a 2nd for him…we’re talking league worst stats/metrics right now.

If you don't mind could you narrow down roughly when that shift was in the second?
I just rewatched the period and can't find any shift that he attempted 3 breakout passes that resulted in a turnover.
I have been watching him closely and thought he played come to a mistake free game.
15:30 to go in the second Hofer sent a wild pass 10-15 feet away from him that he couldn't reach that bounced to Carolina.
12:35 to go in the 2nd Kessel had 2 two attempts to get the puck out that resulted in a turnover.
9:15 to go in the 2nd Mailliox sent a puck high up the boards that got knocked down and Carolina gained possession but nothing maderized from that.
Other then this events I can't find anything close to what you described.
The 1st period he played well.
The 3rd I haven't rewatched yet but I will today.

[MiamiLaw]

Just watch him when he’s out there. Focus on him. His breakout passes almost always result in a turnover. There was a shift tonight where he attempted a breakout pass 3 times and each time it immediately came back in resulting in Carolina shots. The last time, it was just a straight whiff and turnover. This was in the second period. He was trapped out there and gassed by the end.

I’m just not seeing what some people here are seeing as far as him looking significantly better. He’s got a long way to go.

Which would be fine had we traded a 2nd round pick for him which was about the right value/risk IMO.

I like the kid, I don't really see any problems with his effort or anything, Just whether he has the instincts to be a prominent NHL d man

I don’t think he’d be playing if we traded a 2nd for him…we’re talking league worst stats/metrics right now.

If you don't mind could you narrow down roughly when that shift was in the second?
I just rewatched the period and can't find any shift that he attempted 3 breakout passes that resulted in a turnover.
I have been watching him closely and thought he played come to a mistake free game.
15:30 to go in the second Hofer sent a wild pass 10-15 feet away from him that he couldn't reach that bounced to Carolina.
12:35 to go in the 2nd Kessel had 2 two attempts to get the puck out that resulted in a turnover.
9:15 to go in the 2nd Mailliox sent a puck high up the boards that got knocked down and Carolina gained possession but nothing maderized from that.
Other then this events I can't find anything close to what you described.
The 1st period he played well.
The 3rd I haven't rewatched yet but I will today.

Sure. Once I get to a computer. I believe it was later in the period when they were talking to Steen. He fired two passes to I think Bergren who was on left wing right outside the blueline but was not in a position to do anything. The second one was misplaced and bounced off again I think it was 29’s stick and LM was trying to get to the bench. Then he was on the other side (right wing side) where the puck came down the boards and he partially fanned on a clear on his backhand and coughed it up to the Carolina guy.

[MiamiLaw]

It was the shift right after the 10 minute mark. Every time it touched 23’s stick, it ended up back to Carolina. The shift where you said his backhand clear was knocked down. I wasn’t even counting that one.

He had two breakout passes prior to that. One hit Butch’s stick (89 not 29), and that one actually was on Buch on rewatch. Soft play. The next he just panic dumped out right to Carolina. Then the backhand knockdown you saw. Then he flubs a pass from Hofer and gives it right to Car.

Four times it touched 23’s stick. 4 times Carolina regained possession. Though again the first was more on Buch than I realized live.

Feel free to point out parts you saw him make a great play too. You said he played well in the first. I’d like to take a look. I’m trying to see what others are seeing that he is showing great potential.

[dhsux]

He did a great job on the Carolina break out 2 on 1 as the announcer said. Also a big block on a high danger shot.

Carolina was all over them I saw plenty of "failed clearings" all night from the D in general. Tucker had a lot of issues all night.

Again, the talent is there for Mailloux ....he has to find a way to unleash it. He needs the ice time to do that.