After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
You're going to be challenged by the poster who tells everyone else to only talk about baseball..and will have to have the last word!
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:54 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.
He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
It looks like someone is reading posts that are on ignore again.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 07 Dec 2025 07:16 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
It looks like someone is reading posts that are on ignore again.
🤣the hypocrisy is amazing...liars really (bleep) me off. And you'll be called out for not talking baseball!
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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OldRed wrote: 07 Dec 2025 07:16 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
It looks like someone is reading posts that are on ignore again.
Baghdad Bob was the US given name to the Iraqi media and foreign affairs minister during the 2003 invasion.

He became comically famous for his wildly inaccurate reports during time of invasion.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
Cranny, do you actually talk to other Cards fans around town. Not a single long time fan I know has Been happy with this team for YEARS. And it’s almost the same talking points when discussing this team.
BDW lost the drive to win
MO is a complete idiot
Oli shouldn’t be manager of this team

So fans are doing the only thing they can do to get the owners attentions. Not showing up to Busch. So if you think that not consuming the product and complaining about it doesn’t affect BDW…..keep on thinking that ::crazya::
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Goldfan wrote: 07 Dec 2025 07:59 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
Cranny, do you actually talk to other Cards fans around town. Not a single long time fan I know has Been happy with this team for YEARS. And it’s almost the same talking points when discussing this team.
BDW lost the drive to win
MO is a complete idiot
Oli shouldn’t be manager of this team

So fans are doing the only thing they can do to get the owners attentions. Not showing up to Busch. So if you think that not consuming the product and complaining about it doesn’t affect BDW…..keep on thinking that ::crazya::
I said fans complaining on one of the anonymous Cardinals forums solves nothing, Goldfan. Not attending games is another thing entirely.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Dec 2025 05:22 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:54 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.
He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.
There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 07 Dec 2025 08:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Dec 2025 05:22 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:54 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.
He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.
There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.
I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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Cranny wrote: 07 Dec 2025 08:05 am
Goldfan wrote: 07 Dec 2025 07:59 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 16:53 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:24 pm
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 12:14 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
I enjoy winning
I enjoy watching our team play fundamentally sound baseball
I enjoy a team that is competing to win a division
I enjoy watching players develop in the minors and seeing their performances improve (ala Joshua Baez)
I enjoy watching players who get called up - watching their parents in the stands with tears in their eyes

I don't enjoy complaining - because it solves nothing
Squeaky wheel gets the grease :wink:
So you actually think that complaining on one of a number of anonymous Cardinal forums gets some "grease"? LOL.

By the way, does anyone know who "Baghdad Bob" is?
Cranny, do you actually talk to other Cards fans around town. Not a single long time fan I know has Been happy with this team for YEARS. And it’s almost the same talking points when discussing this team.
BDW lost the drive to win
MO is a complete idiot
Oli shouldn’t be manager of this team

So fans are doing the only thing they can do to get the owners attentions. Not showing up to Busch. So if you think that not consuming the product and complaining about it doesn’t affect BDW…..keep on thinking that ::crazya::
I said fans complaining on one of the anonymous Cardinals forums solves nothing, Goldfan. Not attending games is another thing entirely.
You apparently don’t understand that this forum is a focused microcosm of the larger fandom. 15k butts in seats at Busch is a rock bottom years of torture apathetic response. The fan base didn’t get there overnight. This runs deep
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Re: After 3 awful years now the cards want to rebuild lol

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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Dec 2025 08:10 am
Cranny wrote: 07 Dec 2025 08:07 am
sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 07 Dec 2025 05:22 am
Cranny wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:54 pm
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 17:09 pm
WLTFE wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:52 am
OldRed wrote: 06 Dec 2025 11:49 am Unlike some, I enjoy winning and a team playing fundamental sound baseball. Unlike some, I enjoy a team when it is competing to win a division. Unlike some, I don't enjoy .500 baseball. And finally, unlike some I like to complain, it is what baseball is about, talking and complaining.
But...but...you're not being a front office (donkey) kisser and you're posting negative comments...SHAME
And I have been a fan as long as anyone one.
Anyone one? Probably not. There are posters on here older than you are.
He stated fan. Not age. Meaning he has been doing this for awhile. Maybe another older fan started later in life. He could have a point.
There are fans on here who have been fans longer than Red.
I don’t disagree. But he has a point. He is longer than some. For instance. If red was a fan at six and is eighty two- 76 years of fandom.

You, who are older, may became a fan at eight. Although older, you still have same or less fandom. That was how I saw it.
I don't consider anyone who never dreamed of being a Major League player is a lifelong fan. Someone may be a year two older, but that doesn't make them a lifelong fan.
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