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Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
by 12xu
Not that it matters much, but Church should have been walked on 4 pitches and driven in a run. Ump called pitch 4 a strike, it was not.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
by Bomber1
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:01 pm
by Ordinary Man
hotrivets wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm I wonder if the DeWitts are embarrassed by this?
Doubt if they're embarrassed. Jr. has lost interest. Trey Silverspoon (3 sticks) is maybe starting to worry about the businesses across the street.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:04 pm
by 82birds
12xu wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm Not that it matters much, but Church should have been walked on 4 pitches and driven in a run. Ump called pitch 4 a strike, it was not.
you are correct

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:04 pm
by Lightning Rod
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
Stealing third with a four run lead is different than stealing second, but you never have enough runs, so I understand to some degree. Walking Busch was the right thing to do.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:05 pm
by Mort Gage
If it's any consolation the Cubs will throw out their D team tomorrow and the Cards should roll. I think.

I wish they would have held Svanson back today for a multi-inning piggyback off Leahy tomorrow.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:08 pm
by Ordinary Man
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:05 pm If it's any consolation the Cubs will throw out their D team tomorrow and the Cards should roll. I think.

I wish they would have held Svanson back today for a multi-inning piggyback off Leahy tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm really excited for the chance to get that magical 79th win.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:09 pm
by Mort Gage
Lightning Rod wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:04 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
Stealing third with a four run lead is different than stealing second, but you never have enough runs, so I understand to some degree. Walking Busch was the right thing to do.
Normally I might have raised an eyebrow on the steal. But they wanted no chance of losing home field to the Padres. Definitely not bush league.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:10 pm
by Mort Gage
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:08 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:05 pm If it's any consolation the Cubs will throw out their D team tomorrow and the Cards should roll. I think.

I wish they would have held Svanson back today for a multi-inning piggyback off Leahy tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm really excited for the chance to get that magical 79th win.
I picked 78 before the year so if I'm right I might get too cocky. Best they get 79.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:15 pm
by 82birds
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:08 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:05 pm If it's any consolation the Cubs will throw out their D team tomorrow and the Cards should roll. I think.

I wish they would have held Svanson back today for a multi-inning piggyback off Leahy tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm really excited for the chance to get that magical 79th win.
:lol:

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:24 pm
by Whatashame
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:09 pm
Lightning Rod wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:04 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
Stealing third with a four run lead is different than stealing second, but you never have enough runs, so I understand to some degree. Walking Busch was the right thing to do.
Normally I might have raised an eyebrow on the steal. But they wanted no chance of losing home field to the Padres. Definitely not bush league.

If it was about that but as it was pointed out on the broadcast, this gave Swanson a 20/20 season. If it’s about the game fine but if it’s about gaining personal achievements that’s a little different.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:25 pm
by Mort Gage
82birds wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:15 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:08 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:05 pm If it's any consolation the Cubs will throw out their D team tomorrow and the Cards should roll. I think.

I wish they would have held Svanson back today for a multi-inning piggyback off Leahy tomorrow.
Yeah, I'm really excited for the chance to get that magical 79th win.
:lol:
It would lift them to a perfect.500 over the last two seasons.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:28 pm
by illinik
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
As Al said in the postgame, you try to get to 5 runs so a grand slam doesn't tie it. Absolutely nothing wrong with stealing third base there. And likewise, no problem with walking Busch because you want to keep it a four run lead. Both made sense. WE all saw why in the 9th. Grand slam would have tied it.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:33 pm
by Mort Gage
Whatashame wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:24 pm
Mort Gage wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:09 pm
Lightning Rod wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:04 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
Stealing third with a four run lead is different than stealing second, but you never have enough runs, so I understand to some degree. Walking Busch was the right thing to do.
Normally I might have raised an eyebrow on the steal. But they wanted no chance of losing home field to the Padres. Definitely not bush league.

If it was about that but as it was pointed out on the broadcast, this gave Swanson a 20/20 season. If it’s about the game fine but if it’s about gaining personal achievements that’s a little different.
OK, I missed that 20/20 part. There was one out so putting yourself in position to score on a SF or groundout is reasonable. Especially if the consequences of not clinching could be a long flight to SD instead of an extended stay in your own bed. If they do the same tomorrow then I'll join in.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:43 pm
by cbcloud
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:28 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
As Al said in the postgame, you try to get to 5 runs so a grand slam doesn't tie it. Absolutely nothing wrong with stealing third base there. And likewise, no problem with walking Busch because you want to keep it a four run lead. Both made sense. WE all saw why in the 9th. Grand slam would have tied it.
...Swanson was already in scoring position with his double with only 1 out. He risked getting injured on the steal, or being out on the challenge. Even with a Shaw K and 2 outs, Busch likely would have been pitched to, unless Swanson was out on the attempted steal, and then the inning would have been over, withoug Busch coming to bat. The steal wasn't necessary, and risky.

Re: GDT : Cards @ Cubs (9/27) ~ 1:20pm CDT

Posted: 27 Sep 2025 16:48 pm
by Lightning Rod
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:43 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 16:28 pm
Bomber1 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
illinik wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:52 pm
cbcloud wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:46 pm
Ordinary Man wrote: 27 Sep 2025 15:43 pm Oli's a [kittycat].
...So is Swanson, for stealing 3B with Cubs 4-run lead...

Swanson cost Busch a chance for the cycle hitting today...
Now we are down to where a 4 run lead means the game is over? When did that unwritten rule become law? A 4 run lead?
It’s only bush league if the Cubs do it.

If the situation was reversed we would call it aggressive baseball.
As Al said in the postgame, you try to get to 5 runs so a grand slam doesn't tie it. Absolutely nothing wrong with stealing third base there. And likewise, no problem with walking Busch because you want to keep it a four run lead. Both made sense. WE all saw why in the 9th. Grand slam would have tied it.
...Swanson was already in scoring position with his double with only 1 out. He risked getting injured on the steal, or being out on the challenge. Even with a Shaw K and 2 outs, Busch likely would have been pitched to, unless Swanson was out on the attempted steal, and then the inning would have been over, withoug Busch coming to bat. The steal wasn't necessary, and risky.
This conversation is why I love baseball.