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[ramfandan]

Does Cardinals 5th pick Sunday boil down to this ? a HS shortstop vs. a college pitcher ?

It seems that college SS Arquette and HS pitcher Hernandez are the only two that could make the choice vary from that .

[cardini99]

Does Cardinals 5th pick Sunday boil down to this ? a HS shortstop vs. a college pitcher ?

It seems that college SS Arquette and HS pitcher Hernandez are the only two that could make the choice vary from that .

Could be, unless they decide to take an under slot deal like with Irish or Witherspoon maybe? Would love to be a fly on the wall in the Cardinals scout department right now lol

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Here's a nice little draft primer from Kareem, who I really like to follow on Twitter for info on Cardinal prospects and draft stuff. Not much that we really haven't talked about here, but he always adds some nice details in his discussion of players. He covers two of the top guys (Holliday, Anderson) who are unlikely to fall to us, a couple of the underslot guys (Irish, Witherspoon, Parker) if the Cardinals wanted to go that route, and then the two most likely guys (Willits, Arnold) that we will draft.

Spoiler alert, he likes Arnold.

https://www.cardinalsprospects.com/arti ... aft-primer

[Aday96]

Arnold, if available, seems like the safest realistic option at 5 that will bring value to the major league roster at some point.

Doubt he'll ever be anything more than a #2-3 type starter, but in this draft I think I'm selecting him if I'm the cards.

[Ronnie Dobbs]

Arnold, if available, seems like the safest realistic option at 5 that will bring value to the major league roster at some point.

Doubt he'll ever be anything more than a #2-3 type starter, but in this draft I think I'm selecting him if I'm the cards.

I certainly couldn't argue with the pick. Like you said, he seems like a pretty safe opinion, even if he might not be that ace. And with the Cardinals current homegrown pitching problems he has a chance to make an impact with the team very quickly. You would think that would play a role in their thought process.

[82birds]

no new mocks this morning?

I wonder if there will be "day of" mocks tomorrow.,

[craviduce]

no new mocks this morning?

I wonder if there will be "day of" mocks tomorrow.,

The Athletic released a mock by Keith Law this morning, but it looked exactly like Keith Law's mock with NYT from yesterday. Same company. So I didn't paste it on here

I expect Callis and Mayo to release a final one late tonight, early tomorrow. BA will likely release a final one sometime tomorrow

[cardinalsfever44]

Just read an article on Bleacher Report saying the Nationals could be eyeing Willits with the #1 pick. That would be interesting.

[craviduce]

Just read an article on Bleacher Report saying the Nationals could be eyeing Willits with the #1 pick. That would be interesting.

Cubbie website

Holliday, Anderson, Willits are the talked about targets of the Nats. Willits would be a surprise, and would probably cost the Nats less money.

[Karmaloop3]

Does Cardinals 5th pick Sunday boil down to this ? a HS shortstop vs. a college pitcher ?

It seems that college SS Arquette and HS pitcher Hernandez are the only two that could make the choice vary from that .

They may not even get a chance at one of the top college pitchers. I think there's a very high probability that the top 4 picks are Anderson, Doyle, Arnold, and Holliday.

[82birds]

that latest mock Duce referenced has Seth Hernandez going 2nd to the Angels.

what ???????????

everything I've read has said Angels like to take college guys who can graduate to the bigs very quickly.


also in that mock, Jamie Arnold last til #10

what ??????????????????????????????????????

[craviduce]

that latest mock Duce referenced has Seth Hernandez going 2nd to the Angels.

what ???????????

everything I've read has said Angels like to take college guys who can graduate to the bigs very quickly.


also in that mock, Jamie Arnold last til #10

what ??????????????????????????????????????

anything can happen on draft day...the Royals took a #45 rank player in the Top 10 a few years back....but I think this mock is a bit goofy and out there.....but again, it could happen. This years draft is so bleh up top.

[Jobafish]

busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

That is what I have seen too as to his ceiling. The only knock on him is his power but he is only 17 and at 6’1 is going to grow more and get stronger. His bat to ball skill is great. Think of him as a possible bigger and stronger version of Wetherholt.

I see it the opposite, I view him as a poor version of Wetherholt. He has less power than Wetherholt and always will.

Both are valid viewpoints. The draft rarely offers "slam dunks" so I'm really interested to see how this goes down tomorrow. Just for some added context when comparing JJ and Willits; below are their Perfect Game prospect profiles from their draft year. It's not saying 1 player is better/has a higher ceiling than the other, I just find it interesting. Also, it's pretty crazy how young Willits is, playing up and being considered a sure fire top 10 pick.

JJ Wetherholt 2021 PG Player Profile

Eli Willits 2025 PG Player Profile

Bro, I did not know Willits hit .600 with 10hr this spring. Holy (bleep). Why do scouts project him with little power? That changes my whole outlook on him. I haven’t been able to find any stats on him from this spring.

[Shady]

busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

That is what I have seen too as to his ceiling. The only knock on him is his power but he is only 17 and at 6’1 is going to grow more and get stronger. His bat to ball skill is great. Think of him as a possible bigger and stronger version of Wetherholt.

I see it the opposite, I view him as a poor version of Wetherholt. He has less power than Wetherholt and always will.

Both are valid viewpoints. The draft rarely offers "slam dunks" so I'm really interested to see how this goes down tomorrow. Just for some added context when comparing JJ and Willits; below are their Perfect Game prospect profiles from their draft year. It's not saying 1 player is better/has a higher ceiling than the other, I just find it interesting. Also, it's pretty crazy how young Willits is, playing up and being considered a sure fire top 10 pick.

JJ Wetherholt 2021 PG Player Profile

Eli Willits 2025 PG Player Profile

Bro, I did not know Willits hit .600 with 10hr this spring. Holy (bleep). Why do scouts project him with little power? That changes my whole outlook on him. I haven’t been able to find any stats on him from this spring.

At 17 and 6'1", 180 lbs, there's room for growth and strength improvement, too. I'd rather Hernandez be the choice. But I'd be fine with Willits upside, too.

[RamFan08NY]

Arnold, if available, seems like the safest realistic option at 5 that will bring value to the major league roster at some point.

Doubt he'll ever be anything more than a #2-3 type starter, but in this draft I think I'm selecting him if I'm the cards.

Agree. Ive never been a fan of drafting a HS pitcher. Take the guy who is closest to making the jump. A solid 2/3 would be a win.

[RunSup]

I think it's Willits or Parker at #5. Too bad they won't keep Hernandez on their board.

A minor miracle for Holliday, Anderson or Arnold to fall. Holliday's contract demand could do it.

I'm just saying no to Doyle at #5. It won't be Arquette either. But maybe one of those get taken in the first 4 picks. Hernandez also?

Yes, anything can happen.