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Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:50 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

the one that comes up that I see the most? Yankees' Anthony Volpe

well that doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:16 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

I'm sure Cranny was joking.
Has to be that.

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

I believe this mock is the first one I've seen with Jamie Arnold to Angels at #2

82birds wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:19 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:16 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

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Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

I'm sure Cranny was joking.
Has to be that.

he's sour that I don't think JonJon Gazdar is a Power Hitter.

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:18 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:50 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

the one that comes up that I see the most? Yankees' Anthony Volpe

well that doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

that's the comparison I've seen 3 times.

I think he'll hit better....but the speed and defense are definitely comparable...and that's propelled Volpe to an 8 WAR in three seasons...that's not too shabby.

bat wise? His bat stays in the zone, he's not going to K alot out of the zone...or at least he shouldn't, the chase rate is remarkably low from both sides of the plate?


That should help soothe your doubts, imo.

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:16 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

That is what I have seen too as to his ceiling. The only knock on him is his power but he is only 17 and at 6’1 is going to grow more and get stronger. His bat to ball skill is great. Think of him as a possible bigger and stronger version of Wetherholt.

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Goodness - Cranny, sometimes you are the type yelling at the clouds. Could he be that - sure, but Willits by many has been noted as a top 4 and even top 1 talent. Kozma had nowhere near that hype.

kyace wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:30 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:16 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

That is what I have seen too as to his ceiling. The only knock on him is his power but he is only 17 and at 6’1 is going to grow more and get stronger. His bat to ball skill is great. Think of him as a possible bigger and stronger version of Wetherholt.

especially with the way they both keep the bat in the zone....good comparison there with Wetherholt.

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:26 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:18 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:50 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

the one that comes up that I see the most? Yankees' Anthony Volpe

well that doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies

that's the comparison I've seen 3 times.

I think he'll hit better....but the speed and defense are definitely comparable...and that's propelled Volpe to an 8 WAR in three seasons...that's not too shabby.

bat wise? His bat stays in the zone, he's not going to K alot out of the zone...or at least he shouldn't, the chase rate is remarkably low from both sides of the plate?


That should help soothe your doubts, imo.

consider me soothed.

I've started to come around on Doyle a bit, seems like he has some of that Chris Carpenter fire that the team could use

kyace wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:30 am

peterman'srealitytour wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:16 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Based on what? More than one draft analyst have said Willits has the highest ceiling of anyone in this draft. While a lot of is projection, nobody ever said Pete Kozma had that kind of ceiling.

That is what I have seen too as to his ceiling. The only knock on him is his power but he is only 17 and at 6’1 is going to grow more and get stronger. His bat to ball skill is great. Think of him as a possible bigger and stronger version of Wetherholt.

I see it the opposite, I view him as a poor version of Wetherholt. He has less power than Wetherholt and always will.

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 amPete Kozma

As a floor? Sure.

Othawhitemeat wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:31 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Goodness - Cranny, sometimes you are the type yelling at the clouds. Could he be that - sure, but Willits by many has been noted as a top 4 and even top 1 talent. Kozma had nowhere near that hype.

I respect the guys who are on "Wednesdays with Walton" every week. They were comparing the top 3 high school shortstops in the draft 2 days ago. They said that Willits is a tallish skinny guy that probably won't develop much power. That comment reminded me of Pete Kozma. All field and no hit.

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Othawhitemeat wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:31 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Goodness - Cranny, sometimes you are the type yelling at the clouds. Could he be that - sure, but Willits by many has been noted as a top 4 and even top 1 talent. Kozma had nowhere near that hype.

I respect the guys who are on "Wednesdays with Walton" every week. They were comparing the top 3 high school shortstops in the draft 2 days ago. They said that Willits is a tallish skinny guy that probably won't develop much power. That comment reminded me of Pete Kozma. All field and no hit.

that doesn't mean he won't hit...."hit" and "power" are two totally different things.

Brian Kenny , MLB baseball analyst, discussed success rates of players selected 1-1 in the draft for the past 60 years.
It's about a 50/50 shot that even the very first pick becomes a top notch MLB player.
So even when you can pick any guy in the country (HS or college ) you wish, you still aren't certain the kid is going to be very special . Flip a coin !

I won't go overboard on the No. 5 pick for the Cardinals but hoping they 'hit ' on a kid to be a special player for our franchise long term.

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 13:17 pm

Othawhitemeat wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 11:31 am

Cranny wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:48 am

Adam2 wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:41 am

craviduce wrote: ↑11 Jul 2025 10:19 am busy week for mocks. Thank you all for linking the newest mocks!!!!

a few more dropped this morning

https://www.baseballprospectjournal.com ... draft-4-0/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/2025 ... nto-top-5/ Willits, SS, Ft.Cobb-Broxton HS, Okla

CBS has the M's taking Irish @ #3 .... I can see that happening. Wide open draft

--------------

Be prepared for the possibility of a very wonky draft... see 2021....all those highly rated HS SS started falling on draft day, College players and catchers leapt to the top of the draft.

Duce, if you've seen much of Willits, do you have a current comp?

Pete Kozma

Goodness - Cranny, sometimes you are the type yelling at the clouds. Could he be that - sure, but Willits by many has been noted as a top 4 and even top 1 talent. Kozma had nowhere near that hype.

I respect the guys who are on "Wednesdays with Walton" every week. They were comparing the top 3 high school shortstops in the draft 2 days ago. They said that Willits is a tallish skinny guy that probably won't develop much power. That comment reminded me of Pete Kozma. All field and no hit.

wow i thought you were joking. yikes