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Dustin May
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My take is this: at least this is a move. I thought that May had great stuff before his series of injuries. A one-year deal gives Cardinal Nation a chance to see if he can finally reach the potential he has always had. I am good with this move.
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high em said he was getting a #1 and here he is!
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Ronnie Dobbs
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Re: Dustin May
Still think we get Walker B. And piggyback their starts thru the first half
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Yep12xu wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 09:27 am May has great movement on his slider/sweeper and can reach 98 on his fastball. His avg. velocity did drop from almost 97 to just 95 last year. Of course he has struggled with many injuries in his career, with TJ in '21 and flexor tendon surgery in '23. Once traded to the Red Sox at the deadline last season, he started 5 games in August with two decent starts but got hit hard in his last two. He only pitched 1 game in September, and that was 3 innings in relief on September 3. He had forearm soreness and did not pitch again in the regular season and was left off Boston's playoff roster.
I have concerns about his arm being healthy, hopefully he will be OK to start the '26 season. At least they only signed him for one year. The Cardinals have still not announced the amount of the salary he will receive, but I have seen speculation that it will include a lot of incentives. Hopefully he can stay healthy.
Trade a sweeper specialist (S. Gray), add a younger version!
Just stay healthy and he could be a great trade chip midseason unless the Cardinals want to build the staff around him (risky but big upside).
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He knows.....just can’t handle it so he whines constantly to anonymous posters for some kind of comfort!
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now this is logic talking.
agree with ya V
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I'll be the first to admit it and eat crow if May does good and stays on the field, but his past history suggests otherwise, strongly. It's the kind of move that if Mo had made these same people would be calling him Mo-ron and insulting his family genealogy. LOLHoosier59 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 09:48 amYou are correct, they “ should “ be a mid market spending team, but they aren’t going to be again until after the labor dispute is resolved. So spending what money Bill is willing to spend “ right now” on an oft injured guy, is curious to me.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:46 amThe Cards are not a "tight budget" team. They're middle of the pack. Not spending at least a middle tier payroll is a slap in the face to people spending their hard earned dollars for entertainment.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 23:09 pm I’ll reserve total judgment until the final numbers are known, but for a team with a tight budget, and in desperate need of innings, it seems pretty risky to sign a guy who has been so injury prone. Maybe Bill already has the insurance policy in hand to help pay the contract when May injures himself again. Let’s hope he stays away from the salad bar.
May does have a high upside, but the odds of him ever realizing that has not been very good up til now.
Give Bloom credit though, he obviously has pleased many on here, so his approval rating is still currently high.
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sikeston bulldog2
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I’m gonna say otherwise. Just because. I think he has a 15-6 ish season. Would that work. It’s time something went our way.CCard wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 06:45 amI'll be the first to admit it and eat crow if May does good and stays on the field, but his past history suggests otherwise, strongly. It's the kind of move that if Mo had made these same people would be calling him Mo-ron and insulting his family genealogy. LOLHoosier59 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 09:48 amYou are correct, they “ should “ be a mid market spending team, but they aren’t going to be again until after the labor dispute is resolved. So spending what money Bill is willing to spend “ right now” on an oft injured guy, is curious to me.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:46 amThe Cards are not a "tight budget" team. They're middle of the pack. Not spending at least a middle tier payroll is a slap in the face to people spending their hard earned dollars for entertainment.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 23:09 pm I’ll reserve total judgment until the final numbers are known, but for a team with a tight budget, and in desperate need of innings, it seems pretty risky to sign a guy who has been so injury prone. Maybe Bill already has the insurance policy in hand to help pay the contract when May injures himself again. Let’s hope he stays away from the salad bar.
May does have a high upside, but the odds of him ever realizing that has not been very good up til now.
Give Bloom credit though, he obviously has pleased many on here, so his approval rating is still currently high.
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Like the addition. It was a couple million higher than I expected, but I’m not writing the checks so real issue. I’m sure that’s where his market went.
One note on the mutual option. Obviously, those rarely get exercised by both parties. But May has never been offered a QO. So if he pitches well and the Cards pick up the option (and May declines), the Cards could still give him the qualifying offer.
It was $22m this year. Probably $22.5-23m next year. If the Cards feel he’s worth $20m, surely he’d be worth the QO. Then at least we get the draft pick if he declines that too.
One note on the mutual option. Obviously, those rarely get exercised by both parties. But May has never been offered a QO. So if he pitches well and the Cards pick up the option (and May declines), the Cards could still give him the qualifying offer.
It was $22m this year. Probably $22.5-23m next year. If the Cards feel he’s worth $20m, surely he’d be worth the QO. Then at least we get the draft pick if he declines that too.
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His stats are what they say they are. No spinning, no cherry picking. He earned those stats. Other than a slight edge in strikeouts, Mikolas has pitched better. Ugh. No amount of rah rah changes the stats. Lack of health is no excuse either. That factor's in. Should they be paying 12.5 million for an injury prone player? On a young team no less? Educate yourself. I hope he blows the doors off but my enthusiasm is tempered with perusal of those frigging stats.Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 08:32 amYou might want to do a little research other than just reading stats.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:43 amI have not. But I can read stats just like you and his stats are worse than Mikolas. Tell me how he's going to put it all together, stay on the field, and produce at a high level when he never has. Huh?
Or else read the comments of OTHER posters who actually watch and study the game.
If you had at all....you’d KNOW that May is nothing like Mikolas as a pitcher!
His problem has been staying healthy which of course will be his main issue.
Oh....and since you’re big on stats you might notice that HE HAS been productive when healthy.
Prior to last season his career ERA was just above 3.00 which is very good!
Now.....he did have his worst season in 2025 but was healthy and threw his most innings by far.
Of course he was also recovering from surgery which could be the cause?
Might be due for a bounce back as only 28.
Seems like a low risk high potential reward on just a one year deal?
Glad to educate you a bit. Next time trying educating yourself before posting.
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sikeston bulldog2
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Re: Dustin May
If May has the Miks control, we have a stud.
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“You can’t argue with a closed mind!”CCard wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:06 amHis stats are what they say they are. No spinning, no cherry picking. He earned those stats. Other than a slight edge in strikeouts, Mikolas has pitched better. Ugh. No amount of rah rah changes the stats. Lack of health is no excuse either. That factor's in. Should they be paying 12.5 million for an injury prone player? On a young team no less? Educate yourself. I hope he blows the doors off but my enthusiasm is tempered with perusal of those frigging stats.Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 08:32 amYou might want to do a little research other than just reading stats.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:43 amI have not. But I can read stats just like you and his stats are worse than Mikolas. Tell me how he's going to put it all together, stay on the field, and produce at a high level when he never has. Huh?
Or else read the comments of OTHER posters who actually watch and study the game.
If you had at all....you’d KNOW that May is nothing like Mikolas as a pitcher!
His problem has been staying healthy which of course will be his main issue.
Oh....and since you’re big on stats you might notice that HE HAS been productive when healthy.
Prior to last season his career ERA was just above 3.00 which is very good!
Now.....he did have his worst season in 2025 but was healthy and threw his most innings by far.
Of course he was also recovering from surgery which could be the cause?
Might be due for a bounce back as only 28.
Seems like a low risk high potential reward on just a one year deal?
Glad to educate you a bit. Next time trying educating yourself before posting.
Huh????????????????
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Indeed.Cusecards wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 10:24 am“You can’t argue with a closed mind!”CCard wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 07:06 amHis stats are what they say they are. No spinning, no cherry picking. He earned those stats. Other than a slight edge in strikeouts, Mikolas has pitched better. Ugh. No amount of rah rah changes the stats. Lack of health is no excuse either. That factor's in. Should they be paying 12.5 million for an injury prone player? On a young team no less? Educate yourself. I hope he blows the doors off but my enthusiasm is tempered with perusal of those frigging stats.Cusecards wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 08:32 amYou might want to do a little research other than just reading stats.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:43 amI have not. But I can read stats just like you and his stats are worse than Mikolas. Tell me how he's going to put it all together, stay on the field, and produce at a high level when he never has. Huh?
Or else read the comments of OTHER posters who actually watch and study the game.
If you had at all....you’d KNOW that May is nothing like Mikolas as a pitcher!
His problem has been staying healthy which of course will be his main issue.
Oh....and since you’re big on stats you might notice that HE HAS been productive when healthy.
Prior to last season his career ERA was just above 3.00 which is very good!
Now.....he did have his worst season in 2025 but was healthy and threw his most innings by far.
Of course he was also recovering from surgery which could be the cause?
Might be due for a bounce back as only 28.
Seems like a low risk high potential reward on just a one year deal?
Glad to educate you a bit. Next time trying educating yourself before posting.
Huh????????????????
Re: Dustin May
Hey, if he keeps them in games and they aren't continually down 3 or 4 runs in the 1st inning that would be a start. But I don't really see any history to support him being worth those dollars. I continually lambasted Mikolas last year and Mikolas basically has the same or better stats than this guy. The one caveat is this guy strikes out a few more batters. It just seems they could have spent a little more and gotten a quality dependable starter.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 06:54 amI’m gonna say otherwise. Just because. I think he has a 15-6 ish season. Would that work. It’s time something went our way.CCard wrote: ↑18 Dec 2025 06:45 amI'll be the first to admit it and eat crow if May does good and stays on the field, but his past history suggests otherwise, strongly. It's the kind of move that if Mo had made these same people would be calling him Mo-ron and insulting his family genealogy. LOLHoosier59 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 09:48 amYou are correct, they “ should “ be a mid market spending team, but they aren’t going to be again until after the labor dispute is resolved. So spending what money Bill is willing to spend “ right now” on an oft injured guy, is curious to me.CCard wrote: ↑14 Dec 2025 07:46 amThe Cards are not a "tight budget" team. They're middle of the pack. Not spending at least a middle tier payroll is a slap in the face to people spending their hard earned dollars for entertainment.Hoosier59 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2025 23:09 pm I’ll reserve total judgment until the final numbers are known, but for a team with a tight budget, and in desperate need of innings, it seems pretty risky to sign a guy who has been so injury prone. Maybe Bill already has the insurance policy in hand to help pay the contract when May injures himself again. Let’s hope he stays away from the salad bar.
May does have a high upside, but the odds of him ever realizing that has not been very good up til now.
Give Bloom credit though, he obviously has pleased many on here, so his approval rating is still currently high.