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dugoutrex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:36 am on a positive note ... I won't have to spend any money going to Busch Stadium until 2027 ... yippee!

dugoutrex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:36 am on a positive note ... I won't have to spend any money going to Busch Stadium until 2027 ... yippee!

ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, we did well here.

Watching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .

This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types

ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, we did well here.

Watching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .

This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types

zoiks wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:01 am Will the Cardinals be hiring Rusty Kuntz as a coach now that they’ve acquired Dick Fitts in this trade?

Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:43 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

around $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?

From what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.

So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.

I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...

And I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..
Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”

So you are a fan today?

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:41 am

ramfandan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:38 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, we did well here.

Watching vid on Clarke love seeing his 'crossfire ' motion and how he can throw it outside low and left hitter was swinging at air .

This team could have quite the lefty pitchers in a couple years ... Libby, Doyle, and Clarke With Doyle and Clark very high velocity types

LHP is our strength and it just got deeper....that's where we should trade from....not catcher (not yet, at least)

brock118 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:37 am

dugoutrex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:36 am on a positive note ... I won't have to spend any money going to Busch Stadium until 2027 ... yippee!

Or buying playoff paraphanalia.

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

around $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?

From what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.

So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.

I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...

And I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..
Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:43 am

NYCardsFan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:39 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

around $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?

Rosenthal reporting they agreed to rework Gray's contract to a 1 year, $31mm salary plus a mutual option or a $10mm buyout.

oh...okay. What's extra? The $1million? I'm not up on this, but is that the standard NTC Waive fee? did the Buyout increase?

I do wish Gray the best, I liked his stay here...unfortunately we didn't have much of a supporting cast for him

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:46 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

around $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?

From what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.

So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.

I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...

And I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..
Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”

SLOOOOOOOO----MOOOOOOO----IS----NOOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOO

Now it's "Bloom" that rhymes with "ZOOM"!

ggnoobs wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:08 am This is a great deal in my opinion. Fitts will be better than most people think. I wouldn't be surprised (if healthy) that Fitts puts up about equal numbers to Sonny in 2026.

PLUS a great pitching prospect.

PLUS shedding money.

I love it.

82birds wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:25 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

20MM per MLBTR

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:46 am

Goldfan wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:40 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:32 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:24 am

rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:23 am

craviduce wrote: ↑25 Nov 2025 11:21 am it's a good trade....face value, early indications. I'm elated. Of course you grade much later (several seasons), but again, early indications, he did well here.

Ditto

We don't know the final cash BDWJr sent but could be as much as $15M(?) in payroll savings that he could let Bloom re-invest!

around $20M if I'm reading it correctly. Boston on the hook for 15M this year. I wonder if they had to pick up the Option for the Trade to go through?

From what I know the option transfers to the acquiring team.

So Gray's $35/2025 salary now cost the Cardinals only $20M equaling a $15M payroll savings if they didn't have to pay for the buyout option.

I'm just pumped that Bloom jumped the market, moved Gray quickly and now can concentrate on NADO, Donovan, ect...

And I was told NOTHING could be done before the Winter Meetings…..
Bloom is making his market not waiting around for MO’s “Developing Market”

SLOOOOOOOO----MOOOOOOO----IS----NOOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOO

Now it's "Bloom" that rhymes with "ZOOM"!