Contreas deserves hefty fine and suspension

[Melville]

Best player we have.

True
And not relevant.

[Cardinals4Life]

After watching the replay, Willson asked the umpire why he threw him out of the game. He was fairly calm until the umpire told Willson his reason. You could read Wilson’s lips as he said, “ I never said that” , umpire, “Yes you Did” , Willson, now adamantly, “ I never said that” then the umpire replies again and Willson goes berserk! So, whatever the umpire said is what really fired him up. It must have been pretty bad, whatever the umpire said, but we’ll never know what that was. We’ll also never know if he is disciplined for it.

It doesn’t matter what was said dude, Contreas crossed a line you don’t cross, throwing a bat is taboo

He deserves whatever punishment the league throws at him

You act like he chucked his bat halfway across the field. It wasn't that big of a toss. It bumped into Brandt. He's fine. Let's not make a major case about it. I've seen much worse.

And for the record, he asked the umpire "what did I say?" The umpire said "you said to F off". He said "I didn’t say that". Ump said "You told me to F off". Contreras then went nuts and said "now I'm telling you to F off. Now I said F off."

I don't think your permitted to assess this rationally. :

Right?

[PadsFS07]

He did not. It was a toss in the direction of the umpire and others. He did not throw the bat directly at anyone. And there was very little force behind it. Had Brown been paying attention, he doesn't get hit.

That's not defending the action. But I'm not going to go dramatically overboard like you. Geez

No kidding. I had to rewatch it. I thought I missed something. He tossed it back and it didn’t seem intentional.

While being forcibly restrained during a moment of rage, he accidentally threw his bat into a group of people.
Absolutely.
Not intentional at all.
Probably needed more pine tar.

So while being physically restrained (as you say), he still had the ability to throw (your word) his bat and hit his own coach and the umpire. Hard to accomplish. Or maybe your version is embellished.

While being ‘walked’ to the dugout, he tossed the bat back. You could see he didn’t mean to hit the coach or anyone really. I like how he added that he hit the coach and the umpire now.

[Melville]

He did not. It was a toss in the direction of the umpire and others. He did not throw the bat directly at anyone. And there was very little force behind it. Had Brown been paying attention, he doesn't get hit.

That's not defending the action. But I'm not going to go dramatically overboard like you. Geez

No kidding. I had to rewatch it. I thought I missed something. He tossed it back and it didn’t seem intentional.

While being forcibly restrained during a moment of rage, he accidentally threw his bat into a group of people.
Absolutely.
Not intentional at all.
Probably needed more pine tar.

So while being physically restrained (as you say), he still had the ability to throw (your word) his bat and hit his own coach and the umpire. Hard to accomplish. Or maybe your version is embellished.

Was he restrained from trying to get to the umpire after previously bumping him?
Yes
Did he throw his bat which then hit a coach and umpire?
Yes.
Did he also throw a shin guard and attempt to hit an umpire with it?
Yes
Did he throw a bucket onto the field?
Yes.
Facts.
All I do.
Zero bias
Zero embellishment.

[Bad14]

Just a hot head and I’m frankly tired of his antics

Curious what rap sheet of ‘antics’ you speak of?

He has serious anger issues.

He has been hit 19 times this year and didn't try to get out of the way on any of them. Stands there like a statute and then goes crazy when hit.

After his last HBP, he slams bat on ground and cracks it, then fake tough guy breaks it over his knee. missed 4 games last week because of it, hurt the team.

He is undisciplined at plate when angry, will chase pitches way out of zone. He will make stupid baserunning plays and fielding plays too when angry.

I would have more respect for him if he were to charge the mound, but he's a fake tough guy, who might get his (bleep) kicked.

Here's the kicker, he said, I don't want to waive my NTC, because I already have a ring (yeah David Ross had to replace your (bleep) because Joe Madden could not trust you).

The team would be better off without him during the rebuild.

This is really pathetic.

I think you have issues.

Agreed. Talk about overreacting.

[Melville]

He did not. It was a toss in the direction of the umpire and others. He did not throw the bat directly at anyone. And there was very little force behind it. Had Brown been paying attention, he doesn't get hit.

That's not defending the action. But I'm not going to go dramatically overboard like you. Geez

No kidding. I had to rewatch it. I thought I missed something. He tossed it back and it didn’t seem intentional.

While being forcibly restrained during a moment of rage, he accidentally threw his bat into a group of people.
Absolutely.
Not intentional at all.
Probably needed more pine tar.

So while being physically restrained (as you say), he still had the ability to throw (your word) his bat and hit his own coach and the umpire. Hard to accomplish. Or maybe your version is embellished.

While being ‘walked’ to the dugout, he tossed the bat back. You could see he didn’t mean to hit the coach or anyone really. I like how he added that he hit the coach and the umpire now.

Factually, you are wrong
He did not throw the bat while being walked back to the dugout
That is flat out false
He was struggling against those who were trying to get him off the field and was moving to his right - away from the dugout.
He threw the bat behind with with his free right hand - in the direction of a group of people
It hit the coach in the face and the umpire in the arm.
He unquestionably intentionally threw his bat - as well as a shin guard and a bucket.
None of those actions were accidental.
But then, you already know that.

[Quincy Varnish]

Best player we have.

Yup.

[ShakeyWalton]

Just saw it. What a freaking idiot. To not have control of yourself to the point you smoke a guy in the face with your bat is an absolute embarrassment. That looked 100% intentional.

[ecleme22]

Just saw it. What a freaking idiot. To not have control of yourself to the point you smoke a guy in the face with your bat is an absolute embarrassment. That looked 100% intentional.

….you think he meant to hit Brown?

[freed5179]

For those advocating a huge punishment for Willson (and it is reminiscent of those who used to argue for similar punishment for Yadi after certain ump disputes), why was he kicked out of the game?

[scoutyjones2]

Just a hot head and I’m frankly tired of his antics

Curious what rap sheet of ‘antics’ you speak of?

He has serious anger issues.

He has been hit 19 times this year and didn't try to get out of the way on any of them. Stands there like a statute and then goes crazy when hit.

After his last HBP, he slams bat on ground and cracks it, then fake tough guy breaks it over his knee. missed 4 games last week because of it, hurt the team.

He is undisciplined at plate when angry, will chase pitches way out of zone. He will make stupid baserunning plays and fielding plays too when angry.

I would have more respect for him if he were to charge the mound, but he's a fake tough guy, who might get his (bleep) kicked.

Here's the kicker, he said, I don't want to waive my NTC, because I already have a ring (yeah David Ross had to replace your (bleep) because Joe Madden could not trust you).

The team would be better off without him during the rebuild.

Blatant misrepresentation. Laughably bad and bias filled.

[ShakeyWalton]

Just saw it. What a freaking idiot. To not have control of yourself to the point you smoke a guy in the face with your bat is an absolute embarrassment. That looked 100% intentional.

….you think he meant to hit Brown?

I have no idea who he meant to hit, but he 100% knew he was throwing it in the direction of people. Are you really defending this?? At 1:15 he tosses the bat, there is a LOUD gasp from the pitifully small crowd, and he looks at Brown and notices it hit him, then he just doesn't care and continues toward the dugout. The actions were indefensible. To make matters worse, he continues the tirade by throwing more stuff out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ0rNttIQY8

[ecleme22]

Just saw it. What a freaking idiot. To not have control of yourself to the point you smoke a guy in the face with your bat is an absolute embarrassment. That looked 100% intentional.

….you think he meant to hit Brown?

I have no idea who he meant to hit, but he 100% knew he was throwing it in the direction of people. Are you really defending this?? At 1:15 he tosses the bat, there is a LOUD gasp from the pitifully small crowd, and he looks at Brown and notices it hit him, then he just doesn't care and continues toward the dugout. The actions were indefensible. To make matters worse, he continues the tirade by throwing more stuff out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ0rNttIQY8

So you think he meant to hit one of his coaches?

[ScotchMIrish]

Is Marmol telling Contreras to do this to "fire up" the team? It's obvious to me the umpires are tired of the act. He deliberately gets hit on the arm pad by pitch and then wants to fight. Tripped a runner going to first base and wanted to fight.

A good manager would shut that down. The last thing you want is the umpires lined up against you.

[Clubmaker2]

bat throwing? 50K fine years ago

https://www.google.com/search?q=roger+c ... sPrJ8,st:0

[ShakeyWalton]

Just saw it. What a freaking idiot. To not have control of yourself to the point you smoke a guy in the face with your bat is an absolute embarrassment. That looked 100% intentional.

….you think he meant to hit Brown?

I have no idea who he meant to hit, but he 100% knew he was throwing it in the direction of people. Are you really defending this?? At 1:15 he tosses the bat, there is a LOUD gasp from the pitifully small crowd, and he looks at Brown and notices it hit him, then he just doesn't care and continues toward the dugout. The actions were indefensible. To make matters worse, he continues the tirade by throwing more stuff out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ0rNttIQY8

So you think he meant to hit one of his coaches?

Dude, who cares who he tried to hit?? If he was trying to hit the umpire does that change the outcome? He purposely threw the bat towards a group of people, clearly saw (AND heard) he hit someone, didn't give a flying F, and proceeded to trash the filed like a petulant child.