We could lead MLB in one category next season
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Good. Lots of money and a young base of good players is attractive to FAs who want to win.
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Yep, Bloom is off to a good start but we were at rock bottom so it'd have been hard for him not to start well. So far so good though.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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Did Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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You’re yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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Just stating facts. No WS has been won in 20 years by a not top 10 payroll and Cardinals had one in 2006-2011. Why is that now too much to ask?BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 21:09 pmYou’re yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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Having the #1 farm system - principally because Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. haven't graduated from it yet - doesn't mean they are ready to compete in 2026.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
They will be ready to compete again in 2-3 years when, hopefully, Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. are actually in the majors and actually performing at an All-Star or at least borderline All-Star level.
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Re: We could lead MLB in one category next season
For this particular season, that would be a good thing.
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But next 3 FA classes are horrible so by not adding not your saying no FA movement of significance for 3-4 seasons. This was the time to buymattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 10:01 amHaving the #1 farm system - principally because Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. haven't graduated from it yet - doesn't mean they are ready to compete in 2026.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
They will be ready to compete again in 2-3 years when, hopefully, Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. are actually in the majors and actually performing at an All-Star or at least borderline All-Star level.
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I don't think we know that. Guys have buy outs they may exercise, etc.Youboughtit wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 11:04 amBut next 3 FA classes are horrible so by not adding not your saying no FA movement of significance for 3-4 seasons. This was the time to buymattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 10:01 amHaving the #1 farm system - principally because Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. haven't graduated from it yet - doesn't mean they are ready to compete in 2026.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
They will be ready to compete again in 2-3 years when, hopefully, Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. are actually in the majors and actually performing at an All-Star or at least borderline All-Star level.
I'm very certain they'll be able to add whenever the time is right.
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There have been dozens of articles written and interviews given that cover the Cards strategy. When you harp and harp against that strategy, you are yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 09:49 amJust stating facts. No WS has been won in 20 years by a not top 10 payroll and Cardinals had one in 2006-2011. Why is that now too much to ask?BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 21:09 pmYou’re yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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The lower payroll goes the longer it will take to get into top 10.BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 12:55 pmThere have been dozens of articles written and interviews given that cover the Cards strategy. When you harp and harp against that strategy, you are yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 09:49 amJust stating facts. No WS has been won in 20 years by a not top 10 payroll and Cardinals had one in 2006-2011. Why is that now too much to ask?BrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 21:09 pmYou’re yelling at clouds.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
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Teams have been locking down their young superstars which is all they will need to add. Someone to draw fans to the stadium.mattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 11:55 amI don't think we know that. Guys have buy outs they may exercise, etc.Youboughtit wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 11:04 amBut next 3 FA classes are horrible so by not adding not your saying no FA movement of significance for 3-4 seasons. This was the time to buymattmitchl44 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2025 10:01 amHaving the #1 farm system - principally because Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. haven't graduated from it yet - doesn't mean they are ready to compete in 2026.Youboughtit wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 18:29 pmDid Tampa win with #1 farm for 10 years? This will only work with a return to 2006-2011 top 10 payroll. Currently $220m. I would argue spending that $100m on 3 superstars they could compete now. Plenty of role players and #1 farm. Next 3 FA classes horrible. Why not go for it? Should have Kept Gray and added SP and a elite batBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Nov 2025 15:46 pm#1 rated farm system, I like that. Still one of the oldest teams. That will surely go down before opening day.
They will be ready to compete again in 2-3 years when, hopefully, Wetherholt, Doyle, etc. are actually in the majors and actually performing at an All-Star or at least borderline All-Star level.
I'm very certain they'll be able to add whenever the time is right.