Jeff Passan: Cards Open for Business-Gorman may be moved, no mention of Walker?

[Ozziesfan41]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

[Cusecards]

Of all the young players available to move excluding Winn and Burley, I'd keep Gorman.
Sure, he's been a dud, but he still has elite power.
I wouldn't trade him just yet, but according to Passan he's available.
I guess Walker isn't available or nobody wants him?
I'd trade Walker before parting with Gorman.
Might be another boneheaded move coming up fellas.
This could be the demise of Bloom if he gets this one wrong.

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles ... 5_43086833

At this point, whether Passan or others, it is all meaningless speculation and rumormongering deigned to generate clicks.
Far too soon to make assumptions concerning Bloom.
That said, you have perfectly analyzed the CORRECT BASEBALL DECISION.
If there is a choice between Gorman and Walker, there is no choice at all.
Gorman is a LH hitting infielder with established 25+HR power and 80+ RBI production.
Walker is a RH hitting RF who has yet to show a high-side MLB skill - despite the obvious potential.
Now, Gorman certainly has more trade value than Walker right and STL is overloaded from the left side so I can understand the temptation.
But it would immediately be proven to be a mistake.

The only mistake has been to keep giving a one tool player a job he hasn’t earned and continues to fail at

Gorman has zero speed, is awful at defense, and has never hit 25+ HR and 80+ RBI in a year, much less being "established" at that.
It's ludicrous to argue "he could if he played 150 games" -- because he's a one-tool, platoon player who will never play that many games.
He's had over 400 PAs the past 3 years and the only thing he's "established" is that he's going downhill in HR/RBI -- 27/76; 19/50 and 14/46.

I really like Gorman, but I've been shocked at his limitations. Walker has been a dud as well, but he has very good speed and the potential to play better defense. I have no idea whether either will hit anything worth a darn in the Big Leagues, but I'd keep bot b/c they have no trade value.

Yes....BUT....according to one poster in this thread he has “the best batting eye on the team”!
If I was in the middle of getting a root canal the thought of that would have me laughing in the chair!

[Cusecards]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Gorman does have a great eye.
He only strikes out on strikes

Maybe that’s the basis of the point?? LOL

[Melville]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Elite.
And best on the team.

[Melville]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

[riff raff]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Well dang, I'll bet his trade value is sky high then

[Ozziesfan41]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Yea 10 more hits it would be league average 10 More home runs he would have 24 who cares what he would have of you just start adding numbers he didn’t produce lol you can try to make him seem a better player all you want to but he sucks he sucked this past season when he had his runway he sucked the season before when he had his runway and he will suck again next season with his third runway season and my prediction you will still be trying to make him seem like he’s a good player when he’s not but you know he sucks you will just never admit it. And he won’t get a full season because he miss time on the IL with a back injury but he will suck again only I predicted it this past off season easy obvious correct

[Melville]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Well dang, I'll bet his trade value is sky high then

Not as high as it once was.
But much higher than many here believe.
Most folks fall into the trap of being "for or against" a player - and allow their bias and emotions to interfere with their judgement.
I suffer no such limitation.
I deal with facts and data - all I do.
Like it or not, Gorman is the best available on-hand option at 3b for 2026 - and the Cardinals are extremely unlikely to find a better option externally.
That is in unbiased reality.

[Cusecards]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Yea 10 more hits it would be league average 10 More home runs he would have 24 who cares what he would have of you just start adding numbers he didn’t produce lol you can try to make him seem a better player all you want to but he sucks he sucked this past season when he had his runway he sucked the season before when he had his runway and he will suck again next season with his third runway season and my prediction you will still be trying to make him seem like he’s a good player when he’s not but you know he sucks you will just never admit it. And he won’t get a full season because he miss time on the IL with a back injury but he will suck again only I predicted it this past off season easy obvious correct

OMG
I’m still laughing at his “batting eye” post from this morning and now we have this JEWEL! LOL
Just ten more hits?????
If only Noot, Scott, Walker, etc can get ten more hits we’d be a juggernaut!!!!
LMFAO

[Cusecards]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Well dang, I'll bet his trade value is sky high then

Not as high as it once was.
But much higher than many here believe.
Most folks fall into the trap of being "for or against" a player - and allow their bias and emotions to interfere with their judgement.
I suffer no such limitation.
I deal with facts and data - all I do.
Like it or not, Gorman is the best available on-hand option at 3b for 2026 - and the Cardinals are extremely unlikely to find a better option externally.
That is in unbiased reality.

Question- What would you think if Nootbaar got ten more hits????? LMAO

[Melville]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Yea 10 more hits it would be league average 10 More home runs he would have 24 who cares what he would have of you just start adding numbers he didn’t produce lol you can try to make him seem a better player all you want to but he sucks he sucked this past season when he had his runway he sucked the season before when he had his runway and he will suck again next season with his third runway season and my prediction you will still be trying to make him seem like he’s a good player when he’s not but you know he sucks you will just never admit it. And he won’t get a full season because he miss time on the IL with a back injury but he will suck again only I predicted it this past off season easy obvious correct

Incorrect.
No assumptions, no projections, no "adding numbers".
Just FACTS - which is all I do.
Completely without bias or agenda.
Gorman has 1581 career PA's - and produced 193 runs scored and 207 RBI.
Meaning he produces 78 RBI and 72 runs scored per 600 PA's - which is about 85% of a full season.
In other words, with ZERO improvement over career norms, that is what he can be expected to produce in 2026 if he were to play in roughly 140 games.
In 2025, exactly 4 MLB 3B's did better: Suarez, Caminero, Machado, and Ramirez.
And of that group, only Ramirez (switch-hitter) can do damage from the left side.
Perhaps that is an indictment of the condition of the position currently in MLB - and there is certainly a conversation to be had on that point.
But is does not change the fact that Gorman is in fact one of the most productive 3B bats in MLB when he is in the lineup - and brings LH power to the position that is hard to find.
It would be foolish for STL to not give him a full season at the position in 2026 before making any long-term decisions.
Facts.

[ClassicO]

I'm just happy Melville has unequivocally demonstrated how insanely ignorant he is.

Melville on Gorman:
-- "The Unicorn. Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
-- "He is a better version of Max Muncy."
-- "The future is taking shape. Gorman 3b."
-- "Obviously not a thing wrong with Gorman's bat speed or exit velocity.
-- "Simply needs playing time. Nothing more complicated that."

[Cusecards]

I'm just happy Melville has unequivocally demonstrated how insanely ignorant he is.

Melville on Gorman:
-- "The Unicorn. Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
-- "He is a better version of Max Muncy."
-- "The future is taking shape. Gorman 3b."
-- "Obviously not a thing wrong with Gorman's bat speed or exit velocity.
-- "Simply needs playing time. Nothing more complicated that."

Oh....he’s not ignorant.
What he is is a narcissistic, pathological, hypocritical liar and he demonstrates it on a daily basis.
That’s why I call him the Sideshow Clown!
Easy
Obvious
Correct

[11WSChamps]

I'm just happy Melville has unequivocally demonstrated how insanely ignorant he is.

Melville on Gorman:
-- "The Unicorn. Never been a LH hitting 2B in MLB history with his HR power ceiling.
-- "He is a better version of Max Muncy."
-- "The future is taking shape. Gorman 3b."
-- "Obviously not a thing wrong with Gorman's bat speed or exit velocity.
-- "Simply needs playing time. Nothing more complicated that."

There's an old saying.

"Given enough time anything is possible."

[Ozziesfan41]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Yea 10 more hits it would be league average 10 More home runs he would have 24 who cares what he would have of you just start adding numbers he didn’t produce lol you can try to make him seem a better player all you want to but he sucks he sucked this past season when he had his runway he sucked the season before when he had his runway and he will suck again next season with his third runway season and my prediction you will still be trying to make him seem like he’s a good player when he’s not but you know he sucks you will just never admit it. And he won’t get a full season because he miss time on the IL with a back injury but he will suck again only I predicted it this past off season easy obvious correct

Incorrect.
No assumptions, no projections, no "adding numbers".
Just FACTS - which is all I do.
Completely without bias or agenda.
Gorman has 1581 career PA's - and produced 193 runs scored and 207 RBI.
Meaning he produces 78 RBI and 72 runs scored per 600 PA's - which is about 85% of a full season.
In other words, with ZERO improvement over career norms, that is what he can be expected to produce in 2026 if he were to play in roughly 140 games.
In 2025, exactly 4 MLB 3B's did better: Suarez, Caminero, Machado, and Ramirez.
And of that group, only Ramirez (switch-hitter) can do damage from the left side.
Perhaps that is an indictment of the condition of the position currently in MLB - and there is certainly a conversation to be had on that point.
But is does not change the fact that Gorman is in fact one of the most productive 3B bats in MLB when he is in the lineup - and brings LH power to the position that is hard to find.
It would be foolish for STL to not give him a full season at the position in 2026 before making any long-term decisions.
Facts.

Sorry you can try to convince people that a guy who hit .203 .271 .671 OPS in 2024 and .205 .296 .666 OPS and has driven in over 50 runs once in 4 years and an awesome power hitter who has hit more than 19 home runs once in 4 years is great but it’s just not true and you know it you championing Gorman as some great unicorn is as dumb as shady saying burleson was like Tony Gwynn in level of dumb

[riff raff]

Obviously I’m rooting for Gorman and if Arenado is dealt it leaves 3B to him or Donovan(presuming JJ winds up at 2B?).
If Donovan is not dealt he could wind up in LF.
Unless a sweet deal for him transpires giving him one more year doesn’t hurt.
And while I’m pulling hard for him I question his baseball IQ which I believe is his biggest deterrent.
Hope I’m wrong!

Gorman strikes out too much.
Clearly no one disputes that.
But he has by far the highest power ceiling on the team - and the Cardinals were a woeful 29th in HR last season.
And last season he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team.
But regrettably he has been repeatedly hamstrung by The Marmot and the organization.
Despite that, from a production standpoint, he had a top 10 run production rate among MLB 3B's in 2025, and #1 among LH hitters.
He has proven, even with contact issues, to be a 25+ HR / 80+ RBI bat per 600 PA's consistently each season.
The team has no other option anywhere remotely close to that currently available.
You are correct.
It is not only true that "giving him one more year doesn’t hurt", but also the only sensible decision.
The same to make that decision, one way or the other, is AFTER giving him a full season as a starter.

Good points.
But....when you stated “he also emerged as the best batting eye on the team” I almost spit my coffee out!!! LOL
I get that you have a thing for Gorman and you NEVER admit being wrong.....but SERIOUSLY Sideshow????

Even with a poor September, he still had an 11.7 BB rate. That’s good.

Which lead to a robust .296 OBP lol

And just 10 more hits in the season, which is just one every two and a half weeks, would put his OBP above MLB average.
And would put his BA between .230-.240.
That, along with his already established production, would make him a top 5 3b and the top LH 3b.
Like it or not, that is the reality.
It would be foolish to not give him the 2026 full season to answer the question once and for all
Should have happened last year but Super Slow Mo and The Marmot were too stupid, to weak, to do so.
Hopefully Bloom is smarter.

Well dang, I'll bet his trade value is sky high then

Not as high as it once was.
But much higher than many here believe.
Most folks fall into the trap of being "for or against" a player - and allow their bias and emotions to interfere with their judgement.
I suffer no such limitation.
I deal with facts and data - all I do.
Like it or not, Gorman is the best available on-hand option at 3b for 2026 - and the Cardinals are extremely unlikely to find a better option externally.
That is in unbiased reality.

Actually, Gorman is probably the 3rd or 4th best option at 3b at this time.
You're delusional as always. Carry on.